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GraemeT88 - GraemeT88 - 06-04-2023

I should add, I think the context is still a sign of graphics to come.

The wee ‘how to vote in local elections’ uses a similar ‘blocks’ style to the graphics. I think this is what it will be modelled on

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - oscillon - 06-04-2023

Interestingly, during the conversation with the chef, they removed the ticker and the "BBC News" stripe, leaving just "LIVE"+location DOG. They specifically returned it back for several seconds when World was opting out and then they removed it again.

I wonder if it says to how they are treating this interview - more as an "entertainment" segment than "news" or what?

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Also, speaking of UK-centricity, the Met Police turned out to be the main story on the 8pm hour of the Context (moreover, new short anchor-less headlines today were made only of this story).

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - PATV Scunthorpe - 06-04-2023

With some posts about Maryam covering on subsequent programmes throughout the week. It looks like it could be true for The Context tomorrow.

Christian said goodbye to World viewers at 21:50 by saying The Context would be back next week, then corrected himself for UK viewers sounding surprised it was on tomorrow.

And in addition to Huw providing a preview for the 10 during the last ten minutes of The Context, there was also a preview by Victoria for Newsnight that played out afterwards.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Robinho02 - 06-04-2023

As a UK viewer, I wish they hadn’t bothered trying with this ‘merged’ channel to be honest. It just does not work.

Keep BBC World News for international viewers. If they don’t have the budget for a full UK news channel then focus on live and on demand content on iPlayer and BBC One/Two when required.

This horrible nasty mish-mash serves no one well. What’s BBC World News’s target audience? Wealthy, golf playing businessmen in their hotel rooms? (I mention the ‘golf playing’ because they had an ad for the BBC Sport Golf website in a clip posted here).

I’m afraid it’s all just so alienating to UK license fee payers. It reinforces the belief that the BBC is for the wealthy metropolitan elite. It does more harm than good. And that’s before you focus on the presentation mess.

It feels really sad frankly.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Kojak - 06-04-2023

(06-04-2023, 08:43 PM)Tsigriwa Wrote:  Hello This is my first time posting here.

I'm an international (french) viewer of the new BBC News channel and almost a week after the launch I have some thoughts:

When it comes to content :
They are some issues, but overall it is very decent, I'm sure that the odd technical glitch and hosts staring into oblivion between opt-ins will be ironed out very soon. Maybe I'm the only one, but seeing some UK related stuff is not a problem: the BBC is a British corporation after all...

When it comes to the presentation :
Oh boy... Where do I even begin?

-Lower Thirds:
The one line is a waste of space. So much unused space... And why is the font never the same size?!? I was never a fan of these lower thirds anyway, the animation is too slow.
And it lacks the immediacy of the 2013-2019 ones in my opinion. And why are the BBC News' graphics still presented in a 4:3 format?!? It's 2023!

-The ticker:
Well it was already useless on BBC World News, so the permanent bbc.com/news changes nothing for me.

-The red globe:
I am over it. it is dated and should've been replaced in 2019 anyway.

-The countdown:
The concept is tired! The basic idea has been the same for like 20 years now?!?
And who thought a white text on a white background was a good idea?!?

The "chameleon logo" in the intros, teasers and countdown:
In theory it was a good idea, reinforcing your brand "This is the BBC" on top and the name of the channel on the bottom.
But it's just scattering elements on screen, I would not be surprised if the Beeb ends up abandoning that idea and coming back to what Lambie-Nern did in 1997.

The music:
There's no debate, it is amazing. But like some, I would love to see some evolution. Something a bit more authoritative for exemple. And be brave and have some variation of the music without the pips for exemple!

In conclusion :
I've been watching BBC World News for over 10 years. I think the BBC is one of the best public broadcasters in the world.
But I would love for BBC News to be less 'cool' and more autoritative. And when I see people's reactions to Ros Atkins' and his no non-sense approach, I think I'm not the only one thinking that.
I hope they will be bold and interesting when they fully rebrand, the BBC needs to be ahead of the competition and needs to be respected again. I'm sure that new channel will be just fine.

Bienvenue à Pres Café, Tsigriwa! Great first post, and I agree with a lot of what you have written.

I think the graphics are still presented in 4:3 safe areas because BBC World transmits to a lot of areas that still have 4:3 TVs (think poorer parts of Africa and Asia). Even then, though, there are ways to force a 16:9 letterbox to 4:3 viewers now. I agree the BBC should change to 14:9 safe areas when it next changes its graphics.

As for the ticker, it should be removed if it's not going to work properly. We know the BBC News web address, and anyone who doesn't can easily Google it in seconds. We don't need repeated headlines from the website, either, most of which are meaningless without context. I think tickers/flippers have probably had their day, anyway. Anyone who wants to know what else is in the news can look at it on their smartphones.

I think the Chameleon thing will be ditched eventually (but not for a couple of years at least - it's the BBC's pet project!). I too would like to see a return to a 1997-style system.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - oscillon - 06-04-2023

(06-04-2023, 10:01 PM)PATV Scunthorpe Wrote:  With some posts about Maryam covering on subsequent programmes throughout the week. It looks like it could be true for The Context tomorrow.

Christian said goodbye to World viewers at 21:50 by saying The Context would be back next week, then corrected himself for UK viewers sounding surprised it was on tomorrow.

And in addition to Huw providing a preview for the 10 during the last ten minutes of The Context, there was also a preview by Victoria for Newsnight that played out afterwards.

I wonder what will be the pattern in Washington, given that they will have to cover the weekends as well. Today Sumi has the day off, and it is David Willis in the presenter's chair on WNA.

We still do not know how long is the bench they've assembled in Washington - apart from Sumi and David, it's Michelle Fleury, Jane O'Brien (although haven't seen her doing WNA for a while), possibly James Reynolds, may be Katty Kay (not sure if she will be willing to return to some of presenting duties)...

Also, not seen anyone posting about it, but they have started using theme-specific lower thirds during WNA, seen above. Until this week, WNA was like the 6 or the 10 - no casual lower thirds apart from news ticker and channel name stripe.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - direw0lf - 06-04-2023

(06-04-2023, 09:55 PM)oscillon Wrote:  Interestingly, during the conversation with the chef, they removed the ticker and the "BBC News" stripe, leaving just "LIVE"+location DOG. They specifically returned it back for several seconds when World was opting out and then they removed it again.

Presumably removed the graphic so we can actually see what he's cooking!

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Worzel - 06-04-2023

(06-04-2023, 10:27 PM)direw0lf Wrote:  

(06-04-2023, 09:55 PM)oscillon Wrote:  Interestingly, during the conversation with the chef, they removed the ticker and the "BBC News" stripe, leaving just "LIVE"+location DOG. They specifically returned it back for several seconds when World was opting out and then they removed it again.

Presumably removed the graphic so we can actually see what he's cooking!

Tonight its a mash of presentation! Plus a hot pot of old branding, spiced up and topped and tailed with some chewy Chameleon for good measure.

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harshy - harshy - 06-04-2023

(06-04-2023, 10:36 PM)Worzel Wrote:  

(06-04-2023, 10:27 PM)direw0lf Wrote:  Presumably removed the graphic so we can actually see what he's cooking!

Tonight its a mash of presentation! Plus a hot pot of old branding, spiced up and topped and tailed with some chewy Chameleon for good measure.

I doubt this receipe would get the Masterchef seal of approval, the bbc should hang their heads in shame passing off this half baked idea in combining the two different channels together and expecting Uk viewers to stomach the results…

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - thomalex - 06-04-2023

Does anyone know what’s going on with the ticker/flipper. Is it a feature that has officially been dropped for the new channel or is displaying nothing but the URL just a temporary measure?

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