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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - ALV - 07-04-2023

The budget cuts have hit BBC News so hard they no longer can afford 1080p recorders to record the clean feed of their programmes for their YouTube channel. WTH is this badly cropped 480p video from the BBC?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz7U961WlfE 

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - qwerty123 - 07-04-2023

Sarah is also the 9th presenter outside of the core 5 to have appeared this week. If they can’t even manage the first week with the 5 presenters and 8 presenter-reporters they have absolutely no chance in the long run (although it could be that some of the reporter-presenter vacancies have been filled by jobshares).

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Juicy Joe - 07-04-2023

(07-04-2023, 05:52 PM)Juicy Joe Wrote:  

(07-04-2023, 05:16 PM)ALV Wrote:  It seems the ditching of the ticker is intentional rather than caused by technical problems. Looks like the ticker will not return as implied by this tweet:
https://twitter.com/robcoxwell/status/1644352243183828994 

I do feel though a rolling news channel without a ticker/flipper is also unforgivable.

Yes, the flipper is back in action again right now!

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Charles - 07-04-2023

How often do local cable and satellite systems take the ad break opt-outs on World? I’m watching on Comcast in the U.S., and I keep seeing more of the main “around the UK” segments rather than ads.

They really need to drop these “Around the UK” and “Meet the presenters” segments that appear in the middle of bulletins. They come out of nowhere and are so short that they don’t feel like programming breaks, yet they also aren’t integrated into the bulletins. They’re not serving anybody. The regional stories they’ve chosen are all evergreen stories, so it’s not like viewers in the UK are really getting anything of news value through them. I’m watching The Context right now, and after a fairly long first block of live coverage of the Good Friday Agreement anniversary, they run one of these segments on mental health in Welsh schools, then back to the bulletin with coverage of a shooting in Tel Aviv. Completely disjointed.

They really should just go back to doing those “In Brief” segments with three OOV UK stories like what they used to do during joint bulletins.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Juicy Joe - 07-04-2023

(07-04-2023, 08:21 PM)Juicy Joe Wrote:  

(07-04-2023, 05:52 PM)Juicy Joe Wrote:  I do feel though a rolling news channel without a ticker/flipper is also unforgivable.

Yes, the flipper is back in action again right now!

OK - it's not working now.

I'm unsure why it would make a dramatic comeback so briefly...

Unless they were doing some testing?

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Reith85 - 07-04-2023

(07-04-2023, 08:45 PM)Juicy Joe Wrote:  

(07-04-2023, 08:21 PM)Juicy Joe Wrote:  Yes, the flipper is back in action again right now!

OK - it's not working now.

I'm unsure why it would make a dramatic comeback so briefly...

To tease us. Apparently this is the new BBC News operation serving its audience.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - bkman1990 - 07-04-2023

(07-04-2023, 08:10 PM)ALV Wrote:  The budget cuts have hit BBC News so hard they no longer can afford 1080p recorders to record the clean feed of their programmes for their YouTube channel. WTH is this badly cropped 480p video from the BBC?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz7U961WlfE 

Oh dear lord. That picture quality is shocking in this day and age. The colours coming out from that video look so washed out; it has the feeling of looking aneamic. 

Very poor showing from the BBC here.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - mdta - 07-04-2023

(07-04-2023, 09:41 PM)bkman1990 Wrote:  

(07-04-2023, 08:10 PM)ALV Wrote:  The budget cuts have hit BBC News so hard they no longer can afford 1080p recorders to record the clean feed of their programmes for their YouTube channel. WTH is this badly cropped 480p video from the BBC?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz7U961WlfE 

Oh dear lord. That picture quality is shocking in this day and age. The colours coming out from that video look so washed out; it has the feeling of looking aneamic. 

Very poor showing from the BBC here.

Why the assumption it wasn't uploaded at 1080p and its a YouTube issue that its not available in HD yet?

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - bilky asko - 07-04-2023

(07-04-2023, 09:46 PM)mdta Wrote:  

(07-04-2023, 09:41 PM)bkman1990 Wrote:  Oh dear lord. That picture quality is shocking in this day and age. The colours coming out from that video look so washed out; it has the feeling of looking aneamic. 

Very poor showing from the BBC here.

Why the assumption it wasn't uploaded at 1080p and its a YouTube issue that its not available in HD yet?

Does YouTube usually take 12 hours to process 1080p, crop the edges off videos, and add motion artifacts too?

I think it would be foolish to apportion blame for the quality to budget cuts, but I would be certain in saying it's not YouTube's fault.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - ginnyfan - 07-04-2023

Since it's Friday, after 5 days of this new channel, I'll post a few thoughts.


- WORLD: As sad as it is to lose the iconic BBC World branding, the new channel is really not that different and in many ways a great improvement. The biggest change is that we actually have more rolling news and the channel feels more alive. We still have the same weekday presenters, in similar slots. In fact, the new schedule is much better. I love having Yalda in primetime. I haven't watched news at that time since Hala Gorani left CNN and Yalda is in Hala's league of great international journalists. Matthew is the best at rolling news/breaking coverage and having him in the 3 hour afternoon slot makes total sense. Lucy is equally experienced and in control in her early afternoon shift. I was a bit skeptical about Maryam but she's totally won me over and the minced meat bit was lots of fun. She can easily replace all others, any time of the day. Getting rid of shows that lost its purpose (OS) was a good decision. It's great that DC is getting more airtime with new presenters (Sumi already feels like a long time BBC person) and more focus on US news in their primetime makes total sense. The graveyard shift has a purpose now. Karishma in Singapour has made Newsday watchable again, after she took over the show, and I'm glad she's continuing in the merged channel. Early mornings with Sally & Victoria V continue as well, since there's no point in changing the winning team. 

- UK : While I understand the sadness and disappointments many domestic viewers feel about losing their beloved BBC News Channel and presenters, I don't think things are as bad as some make it out to be. Some of the presenters will surely return, they are just having a much needed break. I think the channel managed to strike a good balance of international and domestic stories, and we already got the breaking news opt out team in action, showing that this can be done, despite many doubting it. They have a good system in place, by using the late morning presenter for the afternoon slot. We haven't seen opt-outs in the evenings yet, so maybe they have someone else on duty for those. Mistakes and problems will be ironed out overtime, as always on TV. Even GBN found a way out of its catastrophic debut. The worst thing for domestic viewers are all the useless simulcasts of national news programs and the upcoming radio fluff. Makes no sense at all but we know it's just to keep the domestic news statistics.

- STUDIOS: It's a lovely surprise to have E still with us and in fact, used most of the day. Studio C is much improved with the new backdrop. Using both of them is refreshing and brings nice variety to presentation. We just need more camera shots again, using the side screens etc. The newsroom/hostage reporters are also fine with me, they bring more info and context to the stories. Just need to make the camera shots a bit wider.

- VISUALS: This is the worst part, I guess we all agree on that. I don't care for graphics that much so I'm not affected by changes in that department. The flipper was useless anyway, so it doesn't make much change if it has the website on it all the time. But if that's to continue, they should just remove that white strap permanently.  As I wrote before, the biggest problem are the breaks, no music ident, silly filler used and awkward pauses and moments before and after. These really need fixing. The fact we did not get any new music or overall new look/identity is not a surprise since this wasn't announced. It's just more tweaks to the very old, 2008 look. I said it many times before, BBC News needs a brave, new look. A total change, like in 1999. Lose the beeps, peeps and the iconic music. Start something new! But that's probably not going to happen any time soon so we'll just have more tweaks of this overused look.

I like this black/red logo and the simple white background. It could have been used to build upon it for something new and different.



On to the weekend, let's see what happens there....

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