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RE: BBC Breakfast/BBC News at One Extension? - interestednovice - 05-06-2023

I have no idea if it would have worked or not, but I imagine both BBC World News and Breakfast could have used Studio B on the same day. In addition, of course, to Newsnight and Andrew Marr.

The only thing that would have proved a problem would have been the Victoria Derbyshire programme, as there would not have been an obvious way to “fit it in” to existing studios.

Probably the initial decision not to have two newsroom studios, as you say, was not to do with this and more to do with cost. That was also the reasoning for scaling back the plans to have galleries and studios not “paired” to each other. Of course, nowadays, with IP-controlled galleries, it would be easier to do that - whereas in those days it would have been too complicated.

The other thing, as you allude to, was that Working Lunch was axed. I imagine that B was initially designed with that programme in mind, and it ended up being vacant at that time of day instead.

A happy co-incidence that it then worked so well for WN, although Studio C when brand new was also stunning.

As was E, to be honest, although I remember the circle desks being sometimes slightly small-feeling for double-headed presentation compared to the older desks at TVC which had a longer and shorter side, even if they remained rounded.


RE: BBC Breakfast/BBC News at One Extension? - gottago - 05-06-2023

(04-06-2023, 07:10 PM)Radio_man Wrote:  So will we be seeing Jane / Reeta / Ben / Clive being sent up to Salford to present the One, and how does the cost of paying for transport & hotels 5 days a week save any money?

Talent transport and hotel costs will be a drop in the ocean compared to the money saved from having one crew do Breakfast and the One. Everyone always seems to forget that the most costly part of TV production is normally the wages of the people making it.


RE: BBC Breakfast/BBC News at One Extension? - Nige - 05-06-2023

Slight change of topic, but when is Breakfast moving into the new studio?

It’s been months since renovation work started!


Superman1986 - Superman1986 - 05-06-2023

(05-06-2023, 11:05 PM)Nige Wrote:  Slight change of topic, but when is Breakfast moving into the new studio?

It’s been months since renovation work started!
I heard sometime in June


RE: BBC Breakfast/BBC News at One Extension? - Reith85 - 05-06-2023

Probably September at this rate. Why launch a new studio when the summer holidays are around the corner?


RE: BBC Breakfast/BBC News at One Extension? - GMc - 05-06-2023

(05-06-2023, 11:16 PM)Reith85 Wrote:  Probably September at this rate. Why launch a new studio when the summer holidays are around the corner?

To iron out any issues before the new season?


RE: BBC Breakfast/BBC News at One Extension? - interestednovice - 06-06-2023

That’s very much a BBC, never-ending “soft launch” approach!

One would have thought that, given such a lengthy preparation period, testing and rehearsals would have been done and this would also have allowed fixes of any snagging issues - allowing for a proper launch.

That doesn’t seem to be the BBC style of things, though!


RE: BBC Breakfast/BBC News at One Extension? - Reith85 - 06-06-2023

(06-06-2023, 12:10 AM)interestednovice Wrote:  That’s very much a BBC, never-ending “soft launch” approach!

One would have thought that, given such a lengthy preparation period, testing and rehearsals would have been done and this would also have allowed fixes of any snagging issues - allowing for a proper launch.

That doesn’t seem to be the BBC style of things, though!

If we were talking about any other news operation, yes. BBC News in its current guise is incapable of such operational efficiency though.


RE: BBC Breakfast/BBC News at One Extension? - ViridianFan - 06-06-2023

(05-06-2023, 07:07 PM)AaronLancs Wrote:  Funny you should say that.

From the original BBC Urban Commitment by MJP Architects. Here is the ground floor plan with the two studios opposite each other boxed in red. One other thing of note is the N8 1999-2003 style double desk set styles used in this plan:
[Image: BBC_Urban-Commitment_page-0005.jpg]

Also considering that the studios were to be opposite each other. One does wonder how they would have worked, especially when both channels were to have broadcasted at the same time over the newsroom atrium.
Aren’t these the original MacCormac Jamieson Prichard (MJP) plans for new broadcasting house? MJP were replaced as the project was going over budget.  The Guardian did a piece about it. 

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2011/jan/23/bbc-broadcasting-house  

Reading about the original plans, the hoop was was a compromsie after and the original plans were scaled back. Whilst E is a great view, I can’t help but wonder what the original would have looked like. The same article describes it below:
Quote:…the BBC, reflecting its position as a nurturer of the arts, wanted to spark its very own architectural renaissance….at some point, management decided it had been aiming too high; costs were cut, ambitions lowered. This hit the News Room hardest. MJP's original design was sensational: a magnificent space supported and framed by enormous tree-like columns, with branches spreading around the room, to even out the load of all the floors above. It had the look of the command centre of an intergalactic spaceship, even though MacCormac was making references to revered architects such as John Soane, as well as dreaming up the future. It would have been a thrilling place not just to work in but to look into – from above, or from the comfort of your own living room. The problem was that this was a demanding design. The BBC wanted compromise, and the architect refused. Richard MacCormac went, bound to silence

Talking about breakfast at NBH, would it have used the studio the one show comes from?


RE: BBC Breakfast/BBC News at One Extension? - m_in_m - 06-06-2023

(06-06-2023, 03:49 AM)ViridianFan Wrote:  Aren’t these the original MacCormac Jamieson Prichard (MJP) plans for new broadcasting house? MJP were replaced as the project was going over budget.  The Guardian did a piece about it. 

https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2011/jan/23/bbc-broadcasting-house  

Reading about the original plans, the hoop was was a compromsie after and the original plans were scaled back. Whilst E is a great view, I can’t help but wonder what the original would have looked like. The same article describes it below:

Talking about breakfast at NBH, would it have used the studio the one show comes from?
It wouldn't have used the One Show studio as that wasn't originally going to be a studio.