The BBC Chameleon Thread - Printable Version

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RE: The BBC Chameleon Thread - Keith - 30-01-2023

(30-01-2023, 01:21 PM)Andrew Wood Wrote: https://theident.gallery/misc/misc/rlr.png

It would be nice if in the coming months this could be improved further to feature the logo of the local radio station, rather than having a generic graphic. However, I doubt enough people listen to their local radio via TV to probably justify this.

RE: The BBC Chameleon Thread - VMPhil - 30-01-2023

Has the World Service not been "reithed" yet then?

RE: The BBC Chameleon Thread - HTVbest - 30-01-2023

That's a lovely clash of red and pink on Radio 3!

RE: The BBC Chameleon Thread - Robert Williams - 30-01-2023

(30-01-2023, 01:40 PM)Keith Wrote:
(30-01-2023, 01:21 PM)Andrew Wood Wrote: https://theident.gallery/misc/misc/rlr.png
It would be nice if in the coming months this could be improved further to feature the logo of the local radio station, rather than having a generic graphic. However, I doubt enough people listen to their local radio via TV to probably justify this.

I remember reading somewhere that the reason behind this is to save space on the multiplex, by only having one generic logo that can be used for all five local stations.

RE: The BBC Chameleon Thread - HTVbest - 30-01-2023

(30-01-2023, 02:55 PM)Robert Williams Wrote:
(30-01-2023, 01:40 PM)Keith Wrote: It would be nice if in the coming months this could be improved further to feature the logo of the local radio station, rather than having a generic graphic. However, I doubt enough people listen to their local radio via TV to probably justify this.

I remember reading somewhere that the reason behind this is to save space on the multiplex, by only having one generic logo that can be used for all five local stations.

They could just use a BBC Radio logo, and make the text with the actual station name bigger (and without the text that says BBC Radio). Then you will have a logo that says BBC Radio Somerset, or London etc. Ok.this won't work in Essex.

RE: The BBC Chameleon Thread - Stooky Bill - 30-01-2023

(30-01-2023, 11:39 AM)DTV Wrote:
(30-01-2023, 09:37 AM)Stooky Bill Wrote: It's the advantage they have of changing the logo to one that's not really that different to the old one. They can get away with having the old one present more than they could if it was a more radical change
But then this is just further evidence in the 'this rebrand was totally unnecessary' column. Indeed, the original plans for the Reith rollout specifically involved retaining the 1997 logo due to the unnecessary costs in replacing a logo that was fine as is. The decision for the newer logo was impulsively taken rather late in the process - which in itself is rather indicative about a lot of this rebrand.

The only reason I can see for it to have changed is so it can be animated, I'm not sure the older one would have been able to spring around quite do much. The letters are too big in proportion to the squares

RE: The BBC Chameleon Thread - Stooky Bill - 30-01-2023

(30-01-2023, 11:39 AM)DTV Wrote: And, as Michael says, the Television Centre logo was changed pretty much as soon as possible - you can see the new logo (Television Centre wording and all) in episode six of I'm Alan Partridge, which was transmitted 08/12/1997. I think it's safe to assume there was a turnaround of a week or two - so the logo must have been installed by at least late-November, if not earlier.

I think that it would have been in the can and edited a bit more than 1 or 2 weeks before TX, usually for a sitcom everything the whole series would have been ready before the first ones starts

Oddly in the first episode (TX 3/11/1997) the old logo is present on the outside of TV Centre, I'd have assumed that they'd have filmed both sequences at the same time, so maybe there was a reshoot

RE: The BBC Chameleon Thread - James2001 - 30-01-2023

(30-01-2023, 12:16 PM)Robert Williams Wrote:
(30-01-2023, 11:39 AM)DTV Wrote: And, as Michael says, the Television Centre logo was changed pretty much as soon as possible - you can see the new logo (Television Centre wording and all) in episode six of I'm Alan Partridge, which was transmitted 08/12/1997. I think it's safe to assume there was a turnaround of a week or two - so the logo must have been installed by at least late-November, if not earlier.

Unless it's a dodgy memory, I think I remember that the scaffolding could be seen at the front of Television Centre at the start of that year's Children in Need show.

The new sign was up for Children In Need, there was a programme where you could see the scaffolding though... I think it was something with Hale & Pace and Eurovision. Was trailed quite a lot, and you could see the scaffolding on one of the clips in the trailer, so I remember seeing a lot of it.

Looking at Genome, this seems to fit. Aired in May 1998, but likely filmed months earlier:
https://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/d2ac608f8adb47e49a1b4c67751fc1c5

RE: The BBC Chameleon Thread - JLav25 - 30-01-2023

On the subject of the old logo, I was surprised the old Gill Sans logo is still all around Media City. I thought that would have been the one of the first to be updated before others such as BBC East Midlands, which recently received a new set of blocks with Reith