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RE: BBC/ITV South News - Keith - 13-06-2023
(13-06-2023, 02:38 PM)Stuart Wrote: It's worrying that a very small BBC studio at Millbank (it really is tiny) has not been subject to this moiré effect while using 3-wall LCD screens from 4 years ago, yet the new installations are experiencing issues.We're assuming that the cameras and other equipment was upgraded in the regions at the same time the new sets were installed. Is it possible that some regions are using much older cameras and/or gallery equipment, which can't cope as well with these screens.
Which means the camera distance excuse doesn't make sense. Did they just get the most recent LCD ones from eBay at a discount?
RE: BBC/ITV South News - AaronLancs - 13-06-2023
(13-06-2023, 03:04 PM)Keith Wrote: We're assuming that the cameras and other equipment was upgraded in the regions at the same time the new sets were installed. Is it possible that some regions are using much older cameras and/or gallery equipment, which can't cope as well with these screens.
Would this be similar to when watching railway cab rides and the person who has put the video together has to mention that the aspect (signal in layman's terms) isn't flashing and it is the camera - usually GoPro but there are others - that is making it seem that way?
Sorry to so slightly off topic.
RE: BBC/ITV South News - Technologist - 13-06-2023
Moire occurs when there is interference between spatial frequencies of almost identical periodicity
(or octaves from identical) .... a form of aliasing
Thus (often) very small movement in camera and screen can cause it to come or go....
So if shooting a screen straight on is OK - it being 5 degrees off may not be
and of course zooming the camera changes the screens spatial frequency displayed on the sensor.
and likewise the moire comes and goes.
The softer/ out of focus the screen is helps matters - as the periodic pattern is less obvious.
there are also issue with the optical filtering the camera (Anti aliasing) - they are different -
and any down stream image hf enhancement .
The closer the pixel spacing on the screen makes it less likely to have Moire surprises
as is the further away the camera is......
but shooting obliquely can have all sort of strange effects!
RE: BBC/ITV South News - IanJRedman - 13-06-2023
Does anyone else think the temporary South Today set (whilst tiny) looks better on-screen than the normal one? Mainly because it isn't as beaten up!
RE: BBC/ITV South News - Former Member 406 - 13-06-2023
(13-06-2023, 06:38 PM)IanJRedman Wrote: Does anyone else think the temporary South Today set (whilst tiny) looks better on-screen than the normal one? Mainly because it isn't as beaten up!Yup. The amount of scuff marks on the perspex "windows", further accentuated since the programme went full HD, made it look pretty tatty.
RE: BBC/ITV South News - Tvtrombome - 13-06-2023
When Southampton (eventually) get their set, it certainly isn’t going to be a downgrade. They only use one end of their current set at a time. And the programme is stale, boring and lifeless! I got one am looking forward to seeing them be a bit more creative!
As for the consistency. I guess it’s economical, not only in design time and bulk purchasing, but also going forward with graphic design. One design made centrally for Red Nose Day, then pushed to all the regions
RE: BBC/ITV South News - London Lite - 13-06-2023
(13-06-2023, 09:14 PM)Tvtrombome Wrote: When Southampton (eventually) get their set, it certainly isn’t going to be a downgrade. They only use one end of their current set at a time. And the programme is stale, boring and lifeless! I got one am looking forward to seeing them be a bit more creative!
As for the consistency. I guess it’s economical, not only in design time and bulk purchasing, but also going forward with graphic design. One design made centrally for Red Nose Day, then pushed to all the regions
Expanding the main South Today to cover Oxfordshire and fringe areas of the region like South Northants, Aylesbury and Swindon hasn't done it any favours as the editorial team try their best to get stories from the oversized editorial area instead of the previous Solent skewed bulletin.
RE: BBC/ITV South News - RhysJR - 14-06-2023
ITV Meridian comes to BBC Radio Solent!
https://twitter.com/BBCRadioSolent/status/1668636567471095814?t=LeyKthgKNsF-VRwi6OydRQ&s=19
Has Fred ever presented on the BBC before?
RE: BBC/ITV South News - RDJ - 14-06-2023
Fred certainly has presented on the BBC before:
https://youtu.be/TkqMWtkZt2A
RE: BBC/ITV South News - Pompeytv - 17-06-2023
South Today returned back to their normal studio for this evenings bulletin. Nice to see Sophia Seth back too. The studio lighting looked much brighter than usual to me.