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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - South - 06-04-2023

(06-04-2023, 09:54 AM)Worzel Wrote:  

(06-04-2023, 09:45 AM)Radio_man Wrote:  I can't believe it's taken him so long to get onto daytime - he's undoubtedly one of BBC News' best young presenters.

From the shifts this week, unless it's because of the Easter holidays, it looks like the 9am - 12pm shift will be a rotating presenter shift, with there being 4 of the 5 Chief presenters on between 12 midday - 10pm every weekday.

What's the situation on World between 5am - 9am? Is this still split into two separate shifts or is this now one 4 hour shift?

Pretty sure all the presenters we've seen on the channel since Monday morning have been 'World News staff/presenters/faces'. I know Ben Thompson did business updates on the News channel but he's primarily covered for World News as a presenter. So the term 'World News takeover of the News channel' doesn't seem too wide of the mark.

Makes you wonder what the former News channel presenters who haven't left are doing? Are they working behind the scenes doing other things? I half expected one of them to have popped up on the breaking news streams at least, but alas we haven't seen them yet.

Considering from all understanding the recruitment process is still ongoing I imagine the long term plan for those presenters is not yet known.

In the short term I would imagine they are being kept away from on screen presenting work initially to allow for the new order to settle in, they could appear at weekends lunchtime news or radio/ smart speaker bulletins in the short term.
Once things have settled they may start reappearing again, atleast I hope so.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - DTV - 06-04-2023

(06-04-2023, 12:33 AM)Kojak Wrote:  I think that's the issue with it being a combined channel - there seems to be a tug-of-war as to whether (and which) international or domestic stories get priority. Though I'd argue that the husband of the de-facto leader of the Scottish independence movement being arrested could have been a big story worldwide (although he was later released without charge). So quite how they are deciding which stories go where in the running order is a bit beyond me. You'd think the SNP story would be the sort of thing the breakout stream was made for - but presumably there was no one there to do it, as they would have perhaps been preparing for the blood verdict later?

I wouldn't be surprised, though, if there was an element about the peculiarities of the case that explain why it didn't get higher priority. Scotland has very strict contempt laws (that start after the arrest) and limited information was available other than the police statements (the second of which didn't appear until the evening). Should probably have been higher on the running order, but I can see why you wouldn't give it rolling news coverage - just not much to say and not the kind of thing where you want reporters ad libbing for ages.

On the point of a partial reversal - there is scope for some extra UK output if they wanted it, but I think I'd rather they got things like the editorial balance settled and operational issues fixed before they even considered going down that route. The same really with launching any branded programmes - though, the Hockings/Amroliwala/Hakim slots do appear to be somewhat 'shadow' branded programmes already. Get the basics right, then start looking at bigger changes.

For me, I think finding a structure for the average hour that works is one of the key solutions to the editorial question marks that have existed so far. There is a lot of variation between slots (and even between hours within slots), some of which are too slowly paced which makes it harder to include a range of stories - including key UK ones. It also doesn't help that what is happening in the back-halves - whether UK-focussed, or including business and/or sport is irregular and only signposted in a few instances. I think a tighter more uniform format throughout the day - not dissimilar to late-2000s WNT or the old NC - would improve things and allow more stories to get featured, including domestic ones.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - qwerty123 - 06-04-2023

(06-04-2023, 09:45 AM)Radio_man Wrote:  

(06-04-2023, 09:01 AM)Rolling News Wrote:  Not all bad I suppose - Rich Preston is making a daytime appearance this morning.

I can't believe it's taken him so long to get onto daytime - he's undoubtedly one of BBC News' best young presenters.

From the shifts this week, unless it's because of the Easter holidays, it looks like the 9am - 12pm shift will be a rotating presenter shift, with there being 4 of the 5 Chief presenters on between 12 midday - 10pm every weekday.

What's the situation on World between 5am - 9am? Is this still split into two separate shifts or is this now one 4 hour shift?

5-9 is as before, albeit with the 7-9 presenter then becoming the UK opt presenter later in the day. In particular it appears that 5-7 will remain with Sally Bundock and Victoria Fritz suggesting that the remaining presenter reporters will cover 7-12 and weekends.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Reith85 - 06-04-2023

If they needed to televise any radio show, it should be Radio 4's Today, which is far more agenda-setting news-wise than Nicky Campbell's phone-in will ever be.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - thePineapple - 06-04-2023

In the last few minutes, Rich Preston (who was already just broadcasting to the UK as the rest of the world are watching HardTalk) has handed over to Luxmy Gopal to continue to cover the Sir Mark Rowley's interview with Radio London at 11. (I assume the opt will continue past then, and everyone else will get Rich Preston from E).

The handover was neat, although I shouldn't have to specify that really!

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - UTVLifer - 06-04-2023

(06-04-2023, 12:33 AM)Kojak Wrote:  It seems also that the powers that be are a little confused about what the new BBC News channel should be. Do they want it to be a sort of extended World bulletin each hour, with lots of interviews and lives - or are they going to drop everything and busk whenever there is a breaking story, a la Sky News? 

Kay Burley being a busker would certainly explain her reluctance to sit down most of the time when on air 😂

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Juicy Joe - 06-04-2023

They've temporarily lost the feed to BBC Radio London now in the simulcast about Met Police. Radio logo splashed on screen followed by awkward cut back to the opt out studio. They've regained the live feed now.

It's a bit lazy though isn't it, simulcasting live radio shows? I know GB News & Talk TV essentially do this which is fine, but not the BBC News Channel.

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Frances - 06-04-2023

I guess what they’re doing now can be seen as a preview of the visualised Nicky Campbell show?

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - PATV Scunthorpe - 06-04-2023

A small detail I did notice the other day when the UK opted out, and can be seen now with the Radio London phone-in, for whatever reason, the LIVE graphic shifts quite noticeably to the right when it's displayed without a location

https://up.metropol247.co.uk/PATV%20Scunthorpe/66BF9502-F3A0-435B-8C6F-E39948A6851F.jpeg 

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RE: BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One) - Kojak - 06-04-2023

(06-04-2023, 10:34 AM)DTV Wrote:  I wouldn't be surprised, though, if there was an element about the peculiarities of the case that explain why it didn't get higher priority. Scotland has very strict contempt laws (that start after the arrest) and limited information was available other than the police statements (the second of which didn't appear until the evening). Should probably have been higher on the running order, but I can see why you wouldn't give it rolling news coverage - just not much to say and not the kind of thing where you want reporters ad libbing for ages.

On the point of a partial reversal - there is scope for some extra UK output if they wanted it, but I think I'd rather they got things like the editorial balance settled and operational issues fixed before they even considered going down that route. The same really with launching any branded programmes - though, the Hockings/Amroliwala/Hakim slots do appear to be somewhat 'shadow' branded programmes already. Get the basics right, then start looking at bigger changes.

For me, I think finding a structure for the average hour that works is one of the key solutions to the editorial question marks that have existed so far. There is a lot of variation between slots (and even between hours within slots), some of which are too slowly paced which makes it harder to include a range of stories - including key UK ones. It also doesn't help that what is happening in the back-halves - whether UK-focussed, or including business and/or sport is irregular and only signposted in a few instances. I think a tighter more uniform format throughout the day - not dissimilar to late-2000s WNT or the old NC - would improve things and allow more stories to get featured, including domestic ones.

I didn't know that about Scotland - that would probably explain why the reporting on that arrest was somewhat limited, then. Still should have been higher on the running order, though, I agree.

RE: any reversal of the new setup - I should clarify. I think the BBC are going to want to carry on with the new setup for at least six to twelve months to prove a point, if nothing else - certainly I don't think there will be any major permanent changes this side of the general election. I can see it taking a new government (probably a Labour one that is somewhat friendlier towards the BBC, and is happy to make extra funding available) for any increase in non-simulcast UK output.

I could live with a structure more like the old 5am hour - internationally focussed but with UK headlines during World's ad breaks. That seems like the best compromise we're going to get at the moment. Ideally you might have an 'around the UK' segment (a proper one - not these silly little minute long clips!) towards the end of the hour, which I think World viewers could live with - it is the British Broadcasting Corporation, after all.

I still don't see why they couldn't have just had the One team provide a couple of extra hours of UK news - studio E is there between 12 and 3, after all! It would be no skin off their noses. But as I said, I suspect much of this is (not) being done in order to prove a point.

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