22-02-2023, 10:25 PM
An unlikely thought but is it possible for BBC News to rely on a regional news crew(s) to be on standby during weekdays for UK opts?
Formerly 'Charlie Wells' of TV Forum.
(22-02-2023, 11:49 AM)Matrix Wrote:(22-02-2023, 11:41 AM)Moz Wrote: That could be a clever move from BBC News - putting the UK breaking news opt-out via a red button sending you to an iPlayer stream, rather than the UK broadcast changing.This is assuming a degree of digital literacy (and connected devices), though.
This way they could monitor how much interest there is, and work out the cost per button push!
If a major UK story breaks and very few people press red to watch the coverage, then they know to scale it back. However if every time UK viewers are given the opportunity to watch the break away service tens of thousands choose to view, then they know it’s worth expanding the offering.
I suspect the hard truth here is that the 'UK focus' aspect will quietly be shelved after some clunky and rather cumbersome opt outs. In its place, the BBC focus on new media will come into its own and the 'expensive, hotel traveller looking for a summary' will continue on this channel.
(22-02-2023, 09:11 PM)Brekkie Wrote: The sensible thing would be to keep two opts each hour, at which point the news channel can focus on UK news whilst World is viewing sport and vice versa.This almost certainly a discussion that is better off in the merger thread, but would I be right in thinking that your proposals are something along these lines...
(22-02-2023, 09:17 PM)ginnyfan Wrote: Martine Croxall should be the main presenter of these UK opt outs since she is the most vocal about how bad all of this is, has quite a following and seems to prefer broadcasting to UK audience only.
(23-02-2023, 06:37 AM)Independent Wrote:(21-02-2023, 10:48 PM)Newsroom Wrote: I am laughing so much! DOILEY!Can someone explain what "doiley" is supposed to mean or what it refers to? I don't see any food!
(22-02-2023, 10:39 PM)Moz Wrote:(22-02-2023, 11:49 AM)Matrix Wrote: This is assuming a degree of digital literacy (and connected devices), though.
I suspect the hard truth here is that the 'UK focus' aspect will quietly be shelved after some clunky and rather cumbersome opt outs. In its place, the BBC focus on new media will come into its own and the 'expensive, hotel traveller looking for a summary' will continue on this channel.
Well this is what Katie Razzall said last July…
“I've been told that £4m will be reinvested in new "future-facing" plans, financed from the £12.5m being saved by merging the channels. Those include a live and breaking news team it's believed will significantly increase the BBC's capacity to offer breaking stories across all its platforms, including, crucially, BBC iPlayer.”
So, perhaps it will be on iPlayer only?
www.bbc.co.uk
(22-02-2023, 11:26 PM)DTV Wrote:(22-02-2023, 09:11 PM)Brekkie Wrote: The sensible thing would be to keep two opts each hour, at which point the news channel can focus on UK news whilst World is viewing sport and vice versa.This almost certainly a discussion that is better off in the merger thread, but would I be right in thinking that your proposals are something along these lines...
(23-02-2023, 09:50 AM)Matrix Wrote: That said, I can see a situation whereby lots more of the stand alone reports are made available on iPlayer with a focus on UK stories. There something very similar happening with Sounds and individual stories being made available (I've heard it referred to as From Our Own Correspondent on Acid without Kate Aide).I've always wondered why more VT reports aren't put up online any way, I assume there must be a technical reason for it? Especially considering so many reports must get 'lost' for stories that aren't high enough on the running order for TV bulletins.
(23-02-2023, 10:24 AM)alfiejmulcahy Wrote:I can certainly see the merits of that structure - as it is basically a merger of the current UK and World 'standard' hours, just with a different first-half running order. The problem, though, is things like afternoons where World have preferred to run more newsy programmes in the last 18 years, but I guess they could replace the business with more world news in some hours.(22-02-2023, 11:26 PM)DTV Wrote: This almost certainly a discussion that is better off in the merger thread, but would I be right in thinking that your proposals are something along these lines...This is how I had assumed the new channel would work.