[Stuart]

Being caught still reading your paper script intro after the start of the broadcast is perhaps not the best professional move. I presume this was the 'live' one from Bristol this lunchtime, otherwise they would have just edited out the faux pas.  
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[Former Member 406]

I presume this was the 'live' one from Bristol this lunchtime, otherwise they would have just edited out the faux pas.

I'm sure that pre-recorded ITV sub-regions are done (A) "as live", and (B) as shortly before their broadcast as possible. So the chances of an edit are precisely zero, I'd have thought. And it's not as if what happened was like the presenter evacuating their bowels on the desk or anything.

Even if the "Plymouth" edition had been the pre-recorded one, it'd be more trouble than it's worth to try and edit out those couple of seconds of the presenter looking at their script during the small window of time between the end of the pre-recording and the start of the pre-recorded bulletin then being broadcast. Also, it would have the knock-on effect of making the bulletin under-run slightly, so there'd end up being e.g. a pregnant pause on the copyright endboard at the end of the bulletin or something.

[London Lite]

Someone who used to work on Lookaround told me that they'd record as live at around 4.30pm. It really depends on the regional set-up when they pre-record a region.

Meridian for example has one live, one full pre-record and if Thames Valley is a pre-record, that's another 15 minutes before returning to the main south coast opt.

They also have to record teasers of the bulletin which are aired during The Chase.

[i.h]

I did a tour at a dual region ITV studio (not Bristol) a few years ago, part of which was letting us (quietly!) stand in the gallery as they did the 6pms, and that was pretty much it. IIRC they picked the recorded/live region based on which was more likely to have some sort of developing story or live insert. Record it as live shortly before broadcast and then a brief break before doing the other region live.

Certainly didn't have the time to do much if any editing.

[all new phil]

Someone who used to work on Lookaround told me that they'd record as live at around 4.30pm.  It really depends on the regional set-up when they pre-record a region.

Calendar is roughly the same. Which one is prerecorded is decided pretty late on.

[Stuart]

Even if the "Plymouth" edition had been the pre-recorded one, it'd be more trouble than it's worth to try and edit out those couple of seconds of the presenter looking at their script during the small window of time between the end of the pre-recording and the start of the pre-recorded bulletin then being broadcast. Also, it would have the knock-on effect of making the bulletin under-run slightly, so there'd end up being e.g. a pregnant pause on the copyright endboard at the end of the bulletin or something.

She actually did the same with her paper script at the end of the bulletin, so perhaps it's just 'her thing'. 

Rather like on Spotlight, where Kirk England puts the script on his right, then picks it up and puts it back there again. I wait for him to do it every time.

[TJTSW]

I always thought they did the pre recorded ones at 5pm so they could do the timings to match the Live one at 6pm ?! maybe im completly wrong but Plymouth was Live tonight at 6pm

[Former Member 406]

It's now been nearly 5 weeks since BBC Channel Islands de-camped to a temporary set (on Monday 6th February).

Given the unlikelihood that their new set will be made out of LED screens, but more simple/basic set wall materials (and therefore will not require the same levels of build time/testing/piloting etc that a tech-heavy set would), it surely can't be too much longer before they're back in the main studio?

I do hope that it will nevertheless be as much like the standard sets being rolled out elsewhere as possible, in all regards other than its size and the lack of ability for the backdrop to animate/change.

Do we know it's a temporary set? The studio location appears to be the same, they've just extended the background of the original set in order to remove the TV and make it fit better with the new sofa.

Well... the screen is now a "plasma on a stick", which is rather a downgrade from having a screen properly embedded into a piece of sturdy set wall. Surely this element alone has "temporary set" written all over it?

Also... during the last 6:30pm edition before the current apparent decamp, the presenter said something along the lines of "from Monday, we'll be on the same sofa but with slightly different surroundings".

The previous set had two walls at right angles. One of which was the aforementioned red wall with a TV screen in it, the other had the printed blurry newsroom/skyline (whatever) backdrop on it and looked to be completely smooth and flat (e.g. printed on stiff boards).

The current backdrop looks to be pretty much a single wall with a gentle curve to it overall (approximately following the curve of the sofa), rather than two walls meeting at right angles. The blurry backdrop looks to be an extended version of the same image as before, but is clearly printed on some sort of plastic sheeting stretched over a framework as it has tell-tale creases etc in places. Again, this screams "temporary set".

I have started to wonder if the lengthy de-camp is due to structural work to make the proper studio bigger.

I wonder if the current/previous pokey studio was created in the first place out of existing space at the BBC Radio Jersey building (e.g. plasterboard walls erected to carve up part of the existing newsroom/office, or similar)?

In which case, add in factors such as the post-pandemic rise of working-from-home, and they may now need less office space than before, so could be carving things up differently to make a more spacious studio?

Maybe even one with enough room for the new set to have LED screen walls after all (allowing for things like minimum legal fire lane distance behind the LED walls, and the internal space of the set as seen on-air still allowing the cameras to not be too close to the faces of the LED screens). This could mean doing something similar to the new Sport/Breakfast set in Salford - i.e. not a physically walled studio as such, but the LED set walls and lighting rig simply being built in open newsroom space?

[Stuart]

I wonder if the current/previous pokey studio was created in the first place out of existing space at the BBC Radio Jersey building (e.g. plasterboard walls erected to carve up part of the existing newsroom/office, or similar)?

In which case, add in factors such as the post-pandemic rise of working-from-home, and they may now need less office space than before, so could be carving things up differently to make a more spacious studio?

Maybe even one with enough room for the new set to have LED screen walls after all (allowing for things like minimum legal fire lane distance behind the LED walls, and the internal space of the set as seen on-air still allowing the cameras to not be too close to the faces of the LED screens). This could mean doing something similar to the new Sport/Breakfast set in Salford - i.e. not a physically walled studio as such, but the LED set walls and lighting rig simply being built in open newsroom space?

I doubt they'll be returning to more than just the 'cupboard under the stairs'.

They won't be getting LED screens as they take up too much space, and short of putting the camera in the car park, they'd be too close to them. 

The screens aren't as thin as people think, it's not like a TV in your home.  Aside from the fire lane, you also need decent space for maintenance access to all those 'electrickery' connections to servers/screens and the like behind them.

Actually, Rue, I think CI should stay where they are. It looks OK.

[Former Member 406]

I never said that I think they will/should do any of the elaborate things that I mentioned above.

I was doing all the above supposing simply because it seems odd that they've been decamped for nearly 12 weeks now, if they're only going to have a fairly straightforward set (i.e. not LED screens) in their existing pokey studio.

If nothing a bit more elaborate is going on, then I wonder why the blithering flip they've been decamped for so long.