01-04-2023, 08:39 AM
I've just noticed that the BBC put a DOG on iPlayer but not on their linear channels, whereas ITV don't put a DOG on ITVX but do on their linear channels.
Odd.
Odd.
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(01-04-2023, 08:39 AM)Moz Wrote: I've just noticed that the BBC put a DOG on iPlayer but not on their linear channels, whereas ITV don't put a DOG on ITVX but do on their linear channels.It's only BBC One and BBC Two which lack DOGS. The other six channels all have them.
Odd.
(01-04-2023, 05:12 PM)JAS84 Wrote:(01-04-2023, 08:39 AM)Moz Wrote: I've just noticed that the BBC put a DOG on iPlayer but not on their linear channels, whereas ITV don't put a DOG on ITVX but do on their linear channels.It's only BBC One and BBC Two which lack DOGS. The other six channels all have them.
Odd.
And ITV probably can't burn a DOG into the streams on ITVX because STV Player probably uses copies of the same video files for ITV1 programmes.
(01-04-2023, 01:56 AM)oscillon Wrote:(01-04-2023, 01:41 AM)interestednovice Wrote: I was slightly irritated that the BBC removed the “England” option in the regions drop-down well before launching the HD regions on iPlayer. I’d previously used that to stream BBC One HD (red screen version, of course) but lost the chance to do that around Christmas.
Not sure what device you are using iPlayer on, but when I access it through browser, the ability to choose England and get regionless HD stream is alive and well.
(01-04-2023, 08:39 AM)Moz Wrote: I've just noticed that the BBC put a DOG on iPlayer but not on their linear channels, whereas ITV don't put a DOG on ITVX but do on their linear channels.
Odd.
(02-04-2023, 08:48 PM)VMPhil Wrote: The BBC digital DOGs were removed in the very very early days of digital broadcasting when it would have been only early adaptors who had the technology, who were perhaps more technical minded and also more minded to complain about things like that. BBC Choice eventually reinstated their DOG.I think the reason opposition to DOGs (or bugs) is so uniquely British is that we are (I think) the only country that historically never really had them on the main terrestrial channels. If you look at terrestrial channels from other countries, like France or Germany, they had them much earlier on.
There was a very vocal anti-DOG/bug campaign online for many years in the early 2000s, and it seemed to encompass both "normal" viewers and geeks like ourselves. I always thought it was a peculiarly British thing because no other country seemed to mind as much about DOGs, not even America who'd had them on their major terrestrial channels since the mid-90s or so.
But, we also had widescreen SD which most other countries didn't really have. This meant if the DOG was in the 4:3 safe area, as most graphics were until the late 2000s or so, on a widescreen set it would appear to be floating in the middle of the screen. And perhaps that was part of the reason why we complained more about it. But also the DOGs back then seemed to be a lot bigger, brighter and colourful.
I think, thanks to HD, nowadays they are a lot smaller and tucked away in the corner of the screen.
Personally, I can't say they've ever really bothered me. I think like most people I just tune them out. Which probably negates the whole point of them in the first place.
(02-04-2023, 08:48 PM)VMPhil Wrote: The BBC digital DOGs were removed in the very very early days of digital broadcasting when it would have been only early adaptors who had the technology, who were perhaps more technical minded and also more minded to complain about things like that. BBC Choice eventually reinstated their DOG.
There was a very vocal anti-DOG/bug campaign online for many years in the early 2000s, and it seemed to encompass both "normal" viewers and geeks like ourselves. I always thought it was a peculiarly British thing because no other country seemed to mind as much about DOGs, not even America who'd had them on their major terrestrial channels since the mid-90s or so.
(01-04-2023, 01:56 AM)oscillon Wrote:(01-04-2023, 01:41 AM)interestednovice Wrote: I was slightly irritated that the BBC removed the “England” option in the regions drop-down well before launching the HD regions on iPlayer. I’d previously used that to stream BBC One HD (red screen version, of course) but lost the chance to do that around Christmas.
Not sure what device you are using iPlayer on, but when I access it through browser, the ability to choose England and get regionless HD stream is alive and well.
(01-04-2023, 12:22 AM)London Lite Wrote: It seems to be on certain devices. BBC London on the PC is only 720p when watched in full screen, but 1080p/50fps when using the Amazon Fire TV Cube.I think everything on the PC is 720p or less, be that BBC London or newest Attenborough documentary. Not sure what it has to do with - is it the digital rights problem, the fear of pirating? But it is still 720p in DRM-friendly Edge. Fear for the servers to go down if everybody watching on a PC does that in 1080p50 instead of 720p50?