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To be honest, I don't think The Traitors would have done well on Channel 4 mainly because of the vast amount of reality competition type shows that have failed on the channel in recent years, which has made it easier for people to write off a new one without even seeing it. Being on BBC1 and also having that default audience benefited The Traitors because it had a prime slot, didn't get terrible viewing figures and people lauded it because it was the BBC and something so different for them, which wouldn't have happened if it was Channel 4.

They have a problem holding onto audiences from event TV such as Bake Off and England matches but that isn't surprising when it's stuff like Murder Island and Bangers: Mad for Cars being served up.

Rise and Fall, I can see why it's likened to The Traitors but it's more Big Brother and that's the problem - it was something that viewers had seen before. That could be said about most of C4's output, which is why it's in the dire situation it is currently.

They should get rid of Gogglebox and Bake Off instead of being held to ransom by production companies - partly C4's fault as they overpaid for the latter and people will try to take advantage - though you wonder if that would mean losing half a dozen other shows, The Piano etc which aren't easy to replace, but perhaps rival broadcasters spending money that they don't exactly have to acquire those shows could work in C4's favour in some way.