[KevHal]

Makes you wonder how things would have gone if Carlton had taken over Thames in either 1985 or 1990. Of course they wouldn't have been bidding against Thames as they owned them, but maybe the different politics caused by that could have had a different bidder that won against them, we'll never know.

Maybe Death On The Rock wouldn't have happened under a Carlton owned Thames and the 1991 franchise round would have been carried out fundamentally differently too.

Thames VT engineers were pretty cocky at the time on the VT Xmas tape in 85.