Posts: 227
Threads: 3
Likes Received: 430 in 153 posts
Likes Given: 909
Joined: Aug 2022
Understatement of the millennium: At least getting the regional variations onto the HD channel is massively overdue.
If numerous regional programmes are then produced/broadcast in upscaled SD for a (long or short) period thereafter, so be it. Removing the need for viewers to change channel has always been the key issue, in my humble opinion.
I wonder how many people have regularly ended up watching the subsequent evening schedule in SD because they forget/can't be bothered/don't care/don't percieve the picture quality difference to switch back at 7pm?
Many years from now, we may all be looking back on the Red Screen Of Death with misty-eyed nostalgia. It is just another one of those strange symptoms of the limitations of television during a particular time period, analogous to things like the test card, start-up & closedown routines, "afternoon programmes follow shortly", the UK Today era of digisat BBC One, etc etc.
Posts: 531
Threads: 3
Likes Received: 928 in 321 posts
Likes Given: 1,059
Joined: Jul 2022
(21-02-2023, 02:37 PM)Stuart Wrote: (21-02-2023, 02:32 PM)bilky asko Wrote: Could the difference in abbreviations be on purpose, to help tell them apart?
I'm not sure what you mean. Nothing I have suggested is duplicated or given scope for misinterpretation.
For example, EMid and WM are easier to tell apart than EM and WM.
Posts: 1,091
Threads: 0
Likes Received: 2,095 in 659 posts
Likes Given: 2,804
Joined: Jul 2022
(23-02-2023, 09:59 PM)bilky asko Wrote: (21-02-2023, 02:37 PM)Stuart Wrote: I'm not sure what you mean. Nothing I have suggested is duplicated or given scope for misinterpretation.
For example, EMid and WM are easier to tell apart than EM and WM.
Not if you can read, and that's what you're looking for on Freesat. On Sky/Freesat it's irrelevant, as you'll get the correct region anyway on 101.
If you're scanning for some other region, then quite honestly EM couldn't mean anything else in the UK. To say otherwise is somewhat ridiculous.
I can tell the difference between SW, NE, WM, EM, SE, NW . . . I doubt there are many people who can't.
(This post was last modified: 23-02-2023, 11:57 PM by
Stuart.)
Posts: 531
Threads: 3
Likes Received: 928 in 321 posts
Likes Given: 1,059
Joined: Jul 2022
(23-02-2023, 11:54 PM)Stuart Wrote: (23-02-2023, 09:59 PM)bilky asko Wrote: For example, EMid and WM are easier to tell apart than EM and WM.
Not if you can read, and that's what you're looking for on Freesat. On Sky/Freesat it's irrelevant, as you'll get the correct region anyway on 101.
If you're scanning for some other region, then quite honestly EM couldn't mean anything else in the UK. To say otherwise is somewhat ridiculous.
I can tell the difference between SW, NE, WM, EM, SE, NW . . . I doubt there are many people who can't.
That's the point - as a viewer you are most likely to only ever see your region, so there's no need to enforce a consistency to appease the nerdy few - especially if there's a use in making them more visually different as names for internal reasons, perhaps.
Posts: 1,091
Threads: 0
Likes Received: 2,095 in 659 posts
Likes Given: 2,804
Joined: Jul 2022
(24-02-2023, 01:23 AM)bilky asko Wrote: That's the point - as a viewer you are most likely to only ever see your region, so there's no need to enforce a consistency to appease the nerdy few - especially if there's a use in making them more visually different as names for internal reasons, perhaps.
The point is you're watching a REGIONAL version. It should be differentiated by the fewest letters possible as a consistent policy.
That's 2 or 3 characters, with no unnecessary squashing into the HD at the end of the name on the EPG which just looks very messy and sets off my OCD.
Internally they have only ever been identified by 2 letters relating to the location of the broadcast centre, and it's not the ones used on the new regional HD services.
(This post was last modified: 24-02-2023, 05:16 AM by
Stuart.)
Posts: 1,670
Threads: 8
Likes Received: 2,133 in 920 posts
Likes Given: 2,296
Joined: Jul 2022
A brief look at how BBC One South East HD switches back to the network feed on Breakfast this morning.
youtu.be
Posts: 952
Threads: 2
Likes Received: 2,658 in 644 posts
Likes Given: 1,547
Joined: Oct 2022
(24-02-2023, 01:38 PM)London Lite Wrote: A brief look at how BBC One South East HD switches back to the network feed on Breakfast this morning.
youtu.be
There are some very dodgy, off message hybrid Breakfast/regional news graphics doing the rounds at the moment.
That one, on the screen in the background, designed to have a hint of the pre-2018 Breakfast titles is pretty special though.
Posts: 301
Threads: 0
Likes Received: 422 in 156 posts
Likes Given: 35
Joined: Jul 2022
(24-02-2023, 09:09 PM)Spencer Wrote: (24-02-2023, 01:38 PM)London Lite Wrote: A brief look at how BBC One South East HD switches back to the network feed on Breakfast this morning.
youtu.be
There are some very dodgy, off message hybrid Breakfast/regional news graphics doing the rounds at the moment.
That one, on the screen in the background, designed to have a hint of the pre-2018 Breakfast titles is pretty special though.
It does feel like something that could be designed centrally and better reflect the branding of both Breakfast and the relevant regional programme.
Posts: 952
Threads: 2
Likes Received: 2,658 in 644 posts
Likes Given: 1,547
Joined: Oct 2022
(25-02-2023, 06:59 PM)m_in_m Wrote: (24-02-2023, 09:09 PM)Spencer Wrote: There are some very dodgy, off message hybrid Breakfast/regional news graphics doing the rounds at the moment.
That one, on the screen in the background, designed to have a hint of the pre-2018 Breakfast titles is pretty special though.
It does feel like something that could be designed centrally and better reflect the branding of both Breakfast and the relevant regional programme.
Absolutely. GMB do a good job of providing on-brand graphics for the regional bulletins. Even the original BBC Breakfast Time managed to organise some sort of consistency across the regions by using the rising sun logo with the regional name below on the studio backdrops.
Posts: 1,144
Threads: 3
Likes Received: 1,421 in 562 posts
Likes Given: 376
Joined: Jul 2022
I suspect that was more for the benefit of the network programme (when those studios were used for DTL contributions) than the opt outs.