03-04-2023, 11:21 PM
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03-04-2023, 11:22 PM
Sums up the last 14 hours really: one mistake after another. Awful.
03-04-2023, 11:23 PM
It's difficult to sum everything I've seen today up in one word - but I guess inconsistent would be it. And I don’t just mean the graphics and the studios which have been very well documented here, but editorially you’ve had a mix of a reasonable balance (around one-third UK news) and the old World News balance (about 10-15% UK news) across different hours. Obviously, the running order will always shift throughout the day, but a more consistent target balance would probably be better going forwards.
Of course, it's day one and the BBC have said themselves that they'll learn from mistakes and fine tune the channel as time goes on and I do think there's a solid channel underneath it all if they strike the balance right. Presentationally things could definitely be improved and I can't say I'm too fond of the more gimmicky features, but the underlying journalistic quality is obviously still there. And, although I'm in the minority on this, I feel the breaking news opt worked quite well and looked good for what it was, even if they could have padded for time better - will have to see it used a few more times to make a more definitive judgement.
Overall, I think one of the easiest, though most beneficial, tune-ups could be to find a better structure to the standard hour - pace was another thing that was very inconsistent throughout the day - some hours about right, some way too slow. As I said earlier, I think that short hourly segments/News in Briefs are a good way of keeping things moving and covering a broad range of second-tier stories; a UK news one would be a simple way of keeping a greater range of domestic stories there without being too intrusive for global viewers. I'd also rather have shorter, regular Business and Sport segments than see two or three seemingly randomly placed across the day.
Also, even though this was a growing issue before the change, I have really felt the absence of proper reports. Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer a story to be summed-up in a polished 1.5-2-minute package, complete with any necessary explainer graphics, than to be subjected to slow 4-minute down-the-(often not broadcast quality)-line interviews that can struggle to get to the point and are accompanied solely by B-roll. That said, I don't think using unintroduced VTs for the 'Across the UK' breakfiller works - a presenter-read UK in Brief or even text-based breakfiller would be better.
Of course, it's day one and the BBC have said themselves that they'll learn from mistakes and fine tune the channel as time goes on and I do think there's a solid channel underneath it all if they strike the balance right. Presentationally things could definitely be improved and I can't say I'm too fond of the more gimmicky features, but the underlying journalistic quality is obviously still there. And, although I'm in the minority on this, I feel the breaking news opt worked quite well and looked good for what it was, even if they could have padded for time better - will have to see it used a few more times to make a more definitive judgement.
Overall, I think one of the easiest, though most beneficial, tune-ups could be to find a better structure to the standard hour - pace was another thing that was very inconsistent throughout the day - some hours about right, some way too slow. As I said earlier, I think that short hourly segments/News in Briefs are a good way of keeping things moving and covering a broad range of second-tier stories; a UK news one would be a simple way of keeping a greater range of domestic stories there without being too intrusive for global viewers. I'd also rather have shorter, regular Business and Sport segments than see two or three seemingly randomly placed across the day.
Also, even though this was a growing issue before the change, I have really felt the absence of proper reports. Call me old-fashioned, but I prefer a story to be summed-up in a polished 1.5-2-minute package, complete with any necessary explainer graphics, than to be subjected to slow 4-minute down-the-(often not broadcast quality)-line interviews that can struggle to get to the point and are accompanied solely by B-roll. That said, I don't think using unintroduced VTs for the 'Across the UK' breakfiller works - a presenter-read UK in Brief or even text-based breakfiller would be better.
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03-04-2023, 11:25 PM
That was probably the most concentrated coverage of UK news since the channel began with four stories back to back, albeit three in brief, strange it was being broadcast from Singapore.
Overall findings from the first day, there needs to be a further rebalancing of stories across the network, the breaking news opt this afternoon showed the limits of not having a local team covering the local stories, essentially Lewis Vaughn Jones had to ab-lib for 2 hours when realistically there was only about 30 minutes worth of live coverage analysis required.
The around the UK clips, don't work in the there current format, some are cut off before they end and some you spend half the time guessing about what the story is or in what part of the country the story is occurring.
The problem with the presenter using the autocue throughout the day, it means that there appears to be less of an appetite to move around the studios, which means even when in studios the coverage is more or less locked off shots, are the the BBC going to continue in this style, if so, what's the point of having expensive fancy studios, everything being done by outside video feed appears to be more reminiscent of Covid rather than progression, although I do accept that this could be a temporary set up until a new studio is fully launched at some point in the future.
In regards to the branding, I remember it was stated that Chameleon would roll out over several weeks with BBC News rather than all at once, E, obviously has access to Chameleon titles as the news at 1 showed, its just they do not appear to have been given the default title slide. I guess we will wait to see on this one.
The BBC News at One, I was surprised to see Ben Brown presenting today, with the bulletin now being a BBC 1 bulletin, I would have thought for the first few weeks they would have stuck to the BBC One team, although it is the Easter Holiday. I also hope its an indicator that Martine and Anita may reappear at some stage in the future.
Overall I feel that the UK feed is being treated as the pound shop quota, with packages cut off and junctions not being met correctly. I think for day 1 there are alot more improvements to be made, at present the BBC does not appear to be serving National or international audiences appropriately.
Overall findings from the first day, there needs to be a further rebalancing of stories across the network, the breaking news opt this afternoon showed the limits of not having a local team covering the local stories, essentially Lewis Vaughn Jones had to ab-lib for 2 hours when realistically there was only about 30 minutes worth of live coverage analysis required.
The around the UK clips, don't work in the there current format, some are cut off before they end and some you spend half the time guessing about what the story is or in what part of the country the story is occurring.
The problem with the presenter using the autocue throughout the day, it means that there appears to be less of an appetite to move around the studios, which means even when in studios the coverage is more or less locked off shots, are the the BBC going to continue in this style, if so, what's the point of having expensive fancy studios, everything being done by outside video feed appears to be more reminiscent of Covid rather than progression, although I do accept that this could be a temporary set up until a new studio is fully launched at some point in the future.
In regards to the branding, I remember it was stated that Chameleon would roll out over several weeks with BBC News rather than all at once, E, obviously has access to Chameleon titles as the news at 1 showed, its just they do not appear to have been given the default title slide. I guess we will wait to see on this one.
The BBC News at One, I was surprised to see Ben Brown presenting today, with the bulletin now being a BBC 1 bulletin, I would have thought for the first few weeks they would have stuck to the BBC One team, although it is the Easter Holiday. I also hope its an indicator that Martine and Anita may reappear at some stage in the future.
Overall I feel that the UK feed is being treated as the pound shop quota, with packages cut off and junctions not being met correctly. I think for day 1 there are alot more improvements to be made, at present the BBC does not appear to be serving National or international audiences appropriately.
03-04-2023, 11:33 PM
(03-04-2023, 11:21 PM)Moz Wrote: Ooohh so smooth. Like (News)night into (News)day!
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And here is how it was on the world version (via Hotbird 13E).
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03-04-2023, 11:36 PM
Old titles with red box logo and Mishal Husain voiceover introducing Hard Talk at 11:30pm.
03-04-2023, 11:46 PM
I think the ingredients for a decent combined service are there, although it’ll take a few weeks of the new set-up in action to be certain. It’s a shame though that there have been so many technical problems and silly little errors today that should have been picked up over the past month of pilots and rehearsing. Whilst there’s been a lot of hyperbole on here, they have stoked critics’ fire by allowing a level of technical problems not too dissimilar from the early days of GB News!
Things like Studios C and E not having the same versions of the titles, testing how they’ll do the transition from Newsnight to Newsday, making sure that the ticker 1) works and 2) doesn’t obscure text on the content that forms the new ‘Around the UK’ breakfillers, should have all been picked up in the pilots and resolved. The fact that so many of these little issues haven’t been fixed isn’t a good look.
Things like Studios C and E not having the same versions of the titles, testing how they’ll do the transition from Newsnight to Newsday, making sure that the ticker 1) works and 2) doesn’t obscure text on the content that forms the new ‘Around the UK’ breakfillers, should have all been picked up in the pilots and resolved. The fact that so many of these little issues haven’t been fixed isn’t a good look.
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03-04-2023, 11:56 PM
The flipper headlines are back during HARDtalk…
Then they’re gone again on Newsday! What exactly happened?
Then they’re gone again on Newsday! What exactly happened?
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