04-04-2023, 10:34 PM
BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One)
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04-04-2023, 10:35 PM
With Newsnight beginning before the end of the News at Ten, Gallery A/UK opt out gallery which takes the programme used the wipe to go to the filler for a few seconds before fading into the start of Newsnight.
04-04-2023, 10:41 PM
Rather than those 1 minute cuts of an out of context regional news story, I think they’d be better running a breakfiller like old school BBC World. At least it’s be clear what is going on, and might actually provide some useful information
On a separate note, If Paul O’Grady had died this week, how much coverage do you think the new channel would give the story? On the old channel it would have been near the top, with extended coverage during the hour, maybe interviewing someone relevant, reading out some tributes etc. Now I presume it’d be briefly mentioned at about 53 minutes past the hour after World had opted out?
On a separate note, If Paul O’Grady had died this week, how much coverage do you think the new channel would give the story? On the old channel it would have been near the top, with extended coverage during the hour, maybe interviewing someone relevant, reading out some tributes etc. Now I presume it’d be briefly mentioned at about 53 minutes past the hour after World had opted out?
04-04-2023, 10:43 PM
Meanwhile the World feed has dropped Hardtalk in favour of another half an hour of news from Washington DC covering the Trump arraignment.
04-04-2023, 10:49 PM
Nations and regions wall tonight... someone cleverer than me can help with a screen grab.
No sports centre - but still the same
Number of pictures on display - how?
Also looks like more of them have studio B style backdrops than I’ve seen before - am I making that up?
Kirsty on newsnight also had t quite startled yet when he trailed her - so I think it could have cut much better!
No sports centre - but still the same
Number of pictures on display - how?
Also looks like more of them have studio B style backdrops than I’ve seen before - am I making that up?
Kirsty on newsnight also had t quite startled yet when he trailed her - so I think it could have cut much better!
04-04-2023, 10:59 PM
(04-04-2023, 10:43 PM)AJB39 Wrote: Meanwhile the World feed has dropped Hardtalk in favour of another half an hour of news from Washington DC covering the Trump arraignment.And during that additional half-an-hour the location ticker was inconsistent - some times it was just "LIVE" + location, and once we got this:
No LIVE label (WNA-style), but still they have put out the exact time on air (never happens on WNA), and the whole ticker was shifted as if making the way for the absent LIVE.
04-04-2023, 11:06 PM
While I think that broadly the 'unprofessional', 'amateurish' jibes are unfair, the alarmingly frequent cutting off of presenters, reports, interviews and now programmes mid-sentence is the one thing that has really made me go 'that's just not good enough'. You can maybe get away with an abrupt cut for breaking news, but otherwise it just looks terrible. And it hasn't just been opt or break releated, I've seen at least two ordinary in-bulletin reports that have cut back to presenter mid-sentence.
The Newsnight opt-in, opt-out situation is just the oddest bit of it - us dumbasses on here figured out the issue the first time it was mentioned (months ago), I just struggle to see how smart people with years of broadcasting experience couldn't have seen the problem and found a solution in the year of planning and month of piloting - especially when they are so obvious and simple - either a) don't simulcast overlapping programmes or b) if you have to, air it on a 15-minute tape delay and have a Sportsday fill the gap.
The Newsnight opt-in, opt-out situation is just the oddest bit of it - us dumbasses on here figured out the issue the first time it was mentioned (months ago), I just struggle to see how smart people with years of broadcasting experience couldn't have seen the problem and found a solution in the year of planning and month of piloting - especially when they are so obvious and simple - either a) don't simulcast overlapping programmes or b) if you have to, air it on a 15-minute tape delay and have a Sportsday fill the gap.
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04-04-2023, 11:28 PM
(04-04-2023, 08:50 PM)harshy Wrote: They’ve renamed the channel at 19.2 east it’s simply just BBC News :-(
Same on 13 East / Hotbird.
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04-04-2023, 11:30 PM
They just played one of those website clips with captions and royalty free music that nobody watches as breakfiller. Topped and tailed by the Singaporean anchor silently smiling for 5 seconds either side.
Why are they not just doing a reminder of the headlines or something simple? Some deeply strange decisions being made.
Why are they not just doing a reminder of the headlines or something simple? Some deeply strange decisions being made.
04-04-2023, 11:36 PM
(04-04-2023, 11:06 PM)DTV Wrote: While I think that broadly the 'unprofessional', 'amateurish' jibes are unfair, the alarmingly frequent cutting off of presenters, reports, interviews and now programmes mid-sentence is the one thing that has really made me go 'that's just not good enough'. You can maybe get away with an abrupt cut for breaking news, but otherwise it just looks terrible. And it hasn't just been opt or break releated, I've seen at least two ordinary in-bulletin reports that have cut back to presenter mid-sentence.The length of the Ten is usually 31.5 – 33.5 minutes, meanwhile Newsnight often begins at 22:32… So more overlaps are coming…
The Newsnight opt-in, opt-out situation is just the oddest bit of it - us dumbasses on here figured out the issue the first time it was mentioned (months ago), I just struggle to see how smart people with years of broadcasting experience couldn't have seen the problem and found a solution in the year of planning and month of piloting - especially when they are so obvious and simple - either a) don't simulcast overlapping programmes or b) if you have to, air it on a 15-minute tape delay and have a Sportsday fill the gap.
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