[FactorFiles]

Have they just abandoned the new opening titles altogether? Frankly if they just kept the old ones, and replaced the red box logo with the BBC News as they have it on the studio screens it would be perfectly fine.

Using the Chameleon styling for the program titles really makes no sense, and just makes it awkward. However it does actually work really well for the bumpers, fillers and trails. It creates a really nice cohesiveness through the breaks that hasn't been felt since they abandoned the dynamic junctions.

[oscillon]

Have they just abandoned the new opening titles altogether?

I think they just do not use it when airing from E apart from the network bulletins where they have trundle cam.

At noon we'll see what remains of Chameleon after a day on air.

UPD.Everything stays as yesterday at noon apart from Maryam instead of Lucy.

[Admin PC]

Whilst it may be tempting - no mocks on this forum please.

Per forum rules:

- Mock-ups/recreations of logos, idents, programme titles/graphics and set designs are not permitted.

[Rob Francis]

It's all a bit of a mish-mash isn't it?

I'm not a fan of the "This is BBC News, Live from London" intro. It sounds as if they're about to announce the death of a member of the Royal family...

[justinh]

From an editorial point of view, 0900-1300 was a pretty terrible watch for UK viewers - the teachers’ strike ballot result was covered a bit but the agenda was dominated by Ukraine, the St Petersburg shooting and the Finnish elections - with a live of Jens Stoltenberg welcoming Finland to NATO. There was even a lengthy profile of a now-deceased Aboriginal leader which would never have got on the NC at any time of day or night.

Great news for Sky News though as a domestic audience won’t stick with this.

Agree with the commentary that they should've ditched the idea of a hybrid news agenda and hybrid branding.

The teachers story doesn't really work for a World audience and it's too buried for a UK audience. In other words, it's serving nobody well. Right now, you're serving a niche audience that prefers world news but would like occasionally like a sprinkle of domestic news.

The unified BBC News branding is designed to convey the idea of a single service, but that's completely disjointed in practice. You can go from having an 12pm hybrid bulletin where a UK story is relegated deep down, amid world news, to a 1pm bulletin where most top stories are domestic. To a casual viewer, there's very little distinction about why the 12pm bulletin should have such a different news agenda to the 1pm bulletin.

Effectively the same news agenda as overnights previously, but those had a very small audience and a consistent line of logic on-air. Very little domestic news broke overnight, so a world-focus actually made sense and I recall presenters acknowledged the fact it was broadcasting globally on-air.

EDIT: Someone else's comparison to France 24 is a handy one. It's a non-commercial global channel, meaning that, unlike BBCWN, it doesn't need to make money - only try to gain influence as a French voice in the international news space. In France's case, they also have Franceinfo as a public service rolling news channel that focuses primarily on domestic news, while carrying F24 for overnights. The BBC would be fools to think they could follow the F24 model to competently replace both a domestic channel and a commercial heavy-hitter.

[radiorebel]

I am starting to wonder if this is somehow going against what license fee payers are getting. A commercial feed of BBC World with Breakfillers instead of commercials. UK News opts from a broom cupboard with very poor coverage so far.

[Newshound47]

Nigel Lawson obit package voiced by Carolyn Quinn, who left the BBC in February.

And had been a mostly radio presence for years before that.

[Frances]

The flipper sticks with that website on the One - so it’s also gone during bulletins?

[DeMarkay]

Back to normality with Ben Brown

[Rdd]

Not only acknowledged, in the News 24 days it was very clear that a bulletin was international instead of domestic because the title card would just read “BBC News” instead of “BBC News 24”. The presenter would often open with “this is BBC News broadcasting to the United Kingdom and around the world” which was another tell tale sign.