[cityprod]

The Nine maybe, but come on, An Là and Newyddion, really?

The demand for news in Welsh and Gaelic outside their respective nations, even subtitled, must be next to nil.

I don't disagree, but if they're willing to visualise a radio show, then simulcasting shows they already produce should be an absolute no-brainer.

They can even say they're better serving the nations by providing these simulcasts.

[Jon]

The Nine maybe, but come on, An Là and Newyddion, really?

The demand for news in Welsh and Gaelic outside their respective nations, even subtitled, must be next to nil.

I don't disagree, but if they're willing to visualise a radio show, then simulcasting shows they already produce should be an absolute no-brainer.

They can even say they're better serving the nations by providing these simulcasts.

Subtitled News is going to get virtually no one to watch who doesn’t speak the language. At least with simulcasting English language content it isn’t going to get people activity tuning out for reasons other than not enjoying said content. Nicky Campbell’s programme would surely have some people who’d enjoy the content but wouldn’t typically think to tune into the radio at the time of day. So there is a clear logic to making it accessible to the TV audience beyond doing it as a means of cutting costs. Likewise you’re unlikely to tune out of the News channel because it’s simulcasting a BBC One bulletin, if you’re there for that kind of content anyway, you’re not going to turn it off. 

The Nine on the News channel is a sensible idea. It’s content that fits well with the remit of the channel, so shouldn’t get many tuning out but also would add a few USPs which in turn may bring people who wouldn’t be tuning in otherwise. And for the majority of the UK it’s content that they won’t be able to see that easily.

[cityprod]

I don't disagree, but if they're willing to visualise a radio show, then simulcasting shows they already produce should be an absolute no-brainer.

They can even say they're better serving the nations by providing these simulcasts.

Subtitled News is going to get virtually no one to watch who doesn’t speak the language. At least with simulcasting English language content it isn’t going to get people activity tuning out for reasons other than not enjoying said content. Nicky Campbell’s programme would surely have some people who’d enjoy the content but wouldn’t typically think to tune into the radio at the time of day. So there is a clear logic to making it accessible to the TV audience beyond doing it as a means of cutting costs. Likewise you’re unlikely to tune out of the News channel because it’s simulcasting a BBC One bulletin, if you’re there for that kind of content anyway, you’re not going to turn it off. 

The Nine on the News channel is a sensible idea. It’s content that fits well with the remit of the channel, so shouldn’t get many tuning out but also would add a few USPs which in turn may bring people who wouldn’t be tuning in otherwise. And for the majority of the UK it’s content that they won’t be able to see that easily.

It doesn't necessarily have to be subtitled, as not every airing of Nuacht on RTE News is subtitled.

[Newsroom]

Just watching Politics Live and noticed they still haven't updated the BBC logo on the scrolling background.

[James2001]

The Nine maybe, but come on, An Là and Newyddion, really?

The demand for news in Welsh and Gaelic outside their respective nations, even subtitled, must be next to nil.

The demand in Wales and Scotland likely isn't particularly high either.

[Jon]

Subtitled News is going to get virtually no one to watch who doesn’t speak the language. At least with simulcasting English language content it isn’t going to get people activity tuning out for reasons other than not enjoying said content. Nicky Campbell’s programme would surely have some people who’d enjoy the content but wouldn’t typically think to tune into the radio at the time of day. So there is a clear logic to making it accessible to the TV audience beyond doing it as a means of cutting costs. Likewise you’re unlikely to tune out of the News channel because it’s simulcasting a BBC One bulletin, if you’re there for that kind of content anyway, you’re not going to turn it off. 

The Nine on the News channel is a sensible idea. It’s content that fits well with the remit of the channel, so shouldn’t get many tuning out but also would add a few USPs which in turn may bring people who wouldn’t be tuning in otherwise. And for the majority of the UK it’s content that they won’t be able to see that easily.

It doesn't necessarily have to be subtitled, as not every airing of Nuacht on RTE News is subtitled.

Well obviously my point stands even more so with unsubtitled Gaelic language programmes.

[DTV]

Subtitled News is going to get virtually no one to watch who doesn’t speak the language. At least with simulcasting English language content it isn’t going to get people activity tuning out for reasons other than not enjoying said content. Nicky Campbell’s programme would surely have some people who’d enjoy the content but wouldn’t typically think to tune into the radio at the time of day. So there is a clear logic to making it accessible to the TV audience beyond doing it as a means of cutting costs. Likewise you’re unlikely to tune out of the News channel because it’s simulcasting a BBC One bulletin, if you’re there for that kind of content anyway, you’re not going to turn it off.

Absolutely, and I think it also misses part of the reason that BBC One simulcasts began in the first place - it wasn't so much a case of 'we make it, so let's show it', but 'why are we making two near-identical programmes at the same time, with one often forced into a subordinate role in terms of resource allocation (also we want to save some money)'. Now, you can argue that News 24 should have instead switched to simulcasting with World at those times to provide an alternative, but ultimately network bulletins simulcasts have proved broadly popular on the News channel.

As others have said, I think there is a case with The Nine, but with Newyddion and An Là there is so little justification that it borders on the absurd. I don't see any benefits to Welsh or Gaelic speakers, it doesn't save any money and would ultimately unnecessarily provide a worse service for News channel viewers (if simulcast live, during some of the channel's highest-performing slots).

[Spencer]

Maybe they could visualise Radio Cornwall’s An Nowohow.

[Roger Darthwell]

The Nine maybe, but come on, An Là and Newyddion, really?

The demand for news in Welsh and Gaelic outside their respective nations, even subtitled, must be next to nil.

The demand in Wales and Scotland likely isn't particularly high either.

In what way it's not particularly high? They are making an important public service for the Welsh and Scottish Gaelic language speakers

[James2001]

The point is, important public service or not, it's programming in minority languages that most people in those countries won't be interested in watching on their respective channels, let alone if it's simulcast across the whole UK.