BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One)

(24-05-2023, 08:31 PM)Kojak Wrote:  I'd rather Politics Live wasn't on at all, to be honest (or at least was completely retooled). There are far too many rent-a-gobs on there who contribute nothing of substance. The whole point of that programme seems to be to get buzz on social media.
That's not just your suspicions, the original press release announcing it explicitly said it would "offer viewers a fast-moving, conversational show, featuring a blend of political interviews, discussion and video content designed to be shared digitally".

Awful programme. But the thing that annoys me most is that Politics UK, which is produced by the same team, is a perfect example of public service broadcasting and exactly what BBC Politics output should be doing - so they can clearly do better, just are ordered or choose not to.
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(24-05-2023, 08:56 PM)Brekkie Wrote:  Not sure if you all miss my point or prove my point. BBC News isn't made primarily for a UK audience anymore, hence a death of a celebrity with an international profile is likely to be dealt with more appropriately on a channel which prioritises it's international profile.
On Monday, the channel was leading on a minor British political scandal and later the Madeleine McCann case - spending the best part of ten minutes on the very UK-based stories during the half-hours I caught. The other day, it was leading on Schofield. While you're right that BBC News is no longer made solely for a UK audience, the idea that it is neglecting major UK news isn't particularly credible. Plus, where international news has taken precedence it has almost always been editorially justifiable, which isn't something I would say of the times UK news has taken precedence.

As others have said, Turner's death would have been a main story on the old News channel anyway - it's a slow news day and it never had a problem covering entertainment news, particularly obituaries.
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(24-05-2023, 08:56 PM)Brekkie Wrote:  Not sure if you all miss my point or prove my point.  BBC News isn't made primarily for a UK audience anymore, hence a death of a celebrity with an international profile is likely to be dealt with more appropriately on a channel which prioritises it's international profile.
Would coverage have been any different on the old channel, though? It is a big story, international or not.
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has the news channel crashed, I know its sad that Tina Turner has died, but how long have they held that still of her picture and the dates?
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(24-05-2023, 09:56 PM)TJTSW Wrote:  has the news channel crashed, I know its sad that Tina Turner has died, but how long have they held that still of her picture and  the dates?

Wow, you weren't kidding.

Lower-thirds animated out at 2150, a couple of seconds after this screenshot... 

[Image: tina-01.png]

...and the in memoriam slide was still there at 2154! 
[Image: tina-02.png]

It finally disappeared when the BBC Sport bulletin eventually started a couple of seconds later.
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Newsday on at 10.30 instead of Newsnight. Focus on Tina Turner

(24-05-2023, 10:41 PM)Mjb Wrote:  Newsday on at 10.30 instead of Newsnight. Focus on Tina Turner

Must be the reason they ran Sportsday headlines at TOTH rather than Newsnight

(24-05-2023, 10:41 PM)Mjb Wrote:  Newsday on at 10.30 instead of Newsnight. Focus on Tina Turner

(24-05-2023, 10:41 PM)Mjb Wrote:  Newsday on at 10.30 instead of Newsnight. Focus on Tina Turner

Must be the reason they ran Sportsday headlines at TOTH rather than Newsnight

Interesting that they went to Singapore early rather than stay with WNA as both stories being covered are more USA based as they are now focusing on DeSantis
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Mjb Wrote:Newsday on at 10.30 instead of Newsnight. Focus on Tina Turner

Mjb Wrote:Newsday on at 10.30 instead of Newsnight. Focus on Tina Turner

Must be the reason they ran Sportsday headlines at TOTH rather than Newsnight

Maybe they could drop Newsnight and replace with Newsday going forwards... im sure Newsday can cover UK news for an extra 30 minutes
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(24-05-2023, 10:41 PM)Mjb Wrote:  Newsday on at 10.30 instead of Newsnight. Focus on Tina Turner


Interesting that they went to Singapore early rather than stay with WNA as both stories being covered are more USA based as they are now focusing on DeSantis

It appears they are rolling with DeSantis coverage into the next hour, without cutting off at :56. May be that is the reason to start at 22:30 with Singapore, to avoid the switch.
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(24-05-2023, 08:51 PM)Kojak Wrote:  
(24-05-2023, 08:45 PM)Moz Wrote:  If you'd watched the coverage it turns out she wasn't very popular in America for large parts of her career - it was the UK audience that really gave her success.

She also relinquished her US citizenship ten years ago.
Exactly, she was Swiss towards the end of her life (and never lost her popularity on the continent). So it really is 'world news'. Considering the channel was leading with Schofield's resignation on Saturday, which is of zero interest to anyone outside the UK (as well as many people in the UK), I don't think them leading with Tina Turner's passing tonight is anything to get worked up about. Think about how Michael Jackson's death dominated news bulletins. Same rules apply here.
The death of an international music icon warrants continuous coverage - to a degree - on the rolling news channels; the same was done - in 2016 - with David Bowie, Prince and George Michael.
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I don't think any of the earlier posts were actually saying the coverage of the Tina Turner news was unjustified, if anything it was mainly praise. Perhaps people are just used to that being the topic of discussion after showbiz-related news recently!

On the subject of Politics Live, certainly I've seen the merged channel attempt to use it for PMQs. A few Wednesdays ago at 11:50ish, I think after a sports bulletin, the channel cut to Jo Coburn looking at the camera clearly waiting to say "welcome to viewers on the News channel" but all you could hear were two guests shouting at each other. After about two minutes of their "debate", the UK opt broke in to cover a speech in the Lords and then got back to the Commons for PMQs. So it wasn't really worth bothering at the time and made for bizarre viewing.
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