BBC News Pres: Apr 2023 - Present (News Channel/BBC One)

(01-11-2023, 11:18 AM)AaronLancs Wrote:  I'd say looking at the Reith '6' on its own it isn't too bad of its own volition when in isolation. But with the way that the titles have been spliced and diced and the '6' is Chameleonised - pun unintended - in that globe returning to the 2008 style titles and not on top like in the 2013 style titles. Under the Reith typeface - both Sans and Serif - it does seem as if they need to possibly remove the numerals from the titles entirely and go for wordmarks like 'ONE', 'SIX' & 'TEN'.

ONE, SIX & TEN would be much more Chameleon-style, of course, but then you have to think how you could get that to fit with the rest of BBC News. The numerals have also become a very recognisable part of the BBC News brand, so they would probably (understandably) not want to lose them.
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(31-10-2023, 06:40 PM)Radio_man Wrote:  Not to sound insensitive to the dreadful situation in the middle east, but we've had virtually 24/7 endless rolling coverage of it on the news channel, and on BBC 1 bulletins, at the expense of almost all other news, for almost a month. 
The revelations coming out of the Covid inquiry this week are damning, shocking and hugely damaging to the current government and the UK's system of government. The Covid inquiry should absolutely be getting headline and full coverage this week, at the expense of the middle east. I think UK viewers can manage without 24/7 rolling coverage of the middle east for a few days.

If the Six and Ten don't lead tonight with and dedicate a significant amount of time to coverage and analysis of today's revelations at the inquiry, the BBC has serious Qs to answer about it's editorial decisions.

It does seem like the network bulletins are now locked in the lead on the Middle East every night with at least the first 10 minutes dedicated to it

ITV for example lead on the storms, which due to them effecting the south you’d usually expect blanket coverage on the BBC as well. Indeed ITV have lead on a variety of stories over the past few weeks, still covering Israel/Gaza but at a varying place in the agenda
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Latest cockups have gone up on YouTube by Bax, again regular errors especially spelling errors there seem to be a few too many now when it happens it seems worser on the UK feed.

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(01-11-2023, 07:46 PM)Andrew Wrote:  It does seem like the network bulletins are now locked in the lead on the Middle East every night with at least the first 10 minutes dedicated to it

ITV for example lead on the storms, which due to them effecting the south you’d usually expect blanket coverage on the BBC as well. Indeed ITV have lead on a variety of stories over the past few weeks, still covering Israel/Gaza but at a varying place in the agenda

I'd say the BBC got it very wrong editorially on the BBC 1 bulletins yesterday. All domestic bulletins on Channel 4 & ITV led with the devastating revelations coming out of the Covid inquiry of dysfunction and chaos at the heart of government during the biggest crisis facing the country since the war. If you were watching the Six or Ten you had to wait until 20 minutes in for a 3 minute report. 
Anyone would think the BBC are worried about being too critical of the government.........
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(01-11-2023, 12:20 AM)Newshound Wrote:  Once again, the generic Newsnight trailer on the News Channel at 10pm promised ‘a first look at tomorrow’s front pages’ but then didn’t deliver this at the end of the programme. I don’t understand why the need for a generic trailer and why it can’t be an actual trailer each night as it surely can’t take that much to produce something that lasts 10 seconds.
Sorry to go on about this but it’s happened AGAIN tonight. The promise of newspaper front pages but a failure to deliver. If we are supposed to trust or even just take seriously the BBC then surely the programme should contain what the trailer promises? Or even just, “we haven’t got time for the papers tonight.”
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(02-11-2023, 12:23 AM)Newshound Wrote:  Sorry to go on about this but it’s happened AGAIN tonight. The promise of newspaper front pages but a failure to deliver. If we are supposed to trust or even just take seriously the BBC then surely the programme should contain what the trailer promises? Or even just, “we haven’t got time for the papers tonight.”

I think it was previously mentioned here that the generic trailer is used if the story featured on Newsnight is also mentioned in one of the headlines on the NaT... they just don't want to repeat the same headline twice, so the generic trailer is used.

As for the newspaper teaser... it's probably just a careless oversight that they won't bother to fix, re-script and re-record for every presenter, for just a fraction of viewers on the NC... Typical BBC nowadays~
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(30-10-2023, 10:33 AM)DTV Wrote:  To be fair, this is also largely true of BBC World from twenty years ago.

yeah that was 20 years ago - it feels were going back in presentation.
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(02-11-2023, 12:23 AM)Newshound Wrote:  Sorry to go on about this but it’s happened AGAIN tonight. The promise of newspaper front pages but a failure to deliver. If we are supposed to trust or even just take seriously the BBC then surely the programme should contain what the trailer promises? Or even just, “we haven’t got time for the papers tonight.”

It really doesn’t matter…
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I guess Sky News is the place to go for Papers, they seem to rush that whole segment on Newsnight even in the good old days.
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What on earth is BBC News doing? UK Weather events used to be covered excellently with help from the nations and regions teams. Today it looks like a UK-opt-out, a package that was put together overnight (no pictures in daylight) and an as-live from Dan Johnson. Yet again, Sky News are showing up BBC News with 3 correspondents live in the affected areas. This is the type of thing where the BBC should excel, but it's just not happening.
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