[madmusician]

Of course, up until the Covid arrangements saw joint bulletins between various BBC radio stations, the pips would generally be played before the news jingle, rather than after it.

For example, the Chris Evans Breakfast Show would backtime their song up to 7am and 8am to hit the pips coming out of it, then Evans would do a very short link, then he’d play the news jingle and into the news we go.

They changed it a little when Zoe Ball took over, in that they didn’t go straight from the song into the pips, they had her do a menu over a bed leading up to 7am and 8am, and this was backtimed into the pips, then into the news jingle.

It was only when bulletins had to start strictly on the hour when shared between Radios 2 and 3 (and possibly some other stations, too?) during the Covid arrangements, that they would fire the news jingle to lead into the pips and then have the newsreader come straight in. Whilst I listen to a lot less Radio 2 than I used to five years ago, it seems as though this order of things has remained (jingle, pips, start the bulletin) and the new package is clearly geared up for this. And that’s fair enough - I’ll give it that.