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I don't think they have much choice but to take world feed for this match, with six Brits in action today and this one the only one with a world feed commentary available.

Sky have had to draft in additional commentators to cover the Brits. Pete Odgers was working for Eurosport/Discovery last night and was partnered with Naomi Broady today. At least they've had a good 48 hours to sort things out with today's schedule being out since Sunday.

I assume Jonathan Overend will do Jack Draper's match with someone in New York. Probably not Laura Robson again as she is scheduled to do a full night session shift on the world feed.
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(29-08-2023, 07:46 PM)RhysJR Wrote:  Sky using the world feed on an Andy Murray match is quite a choice.

I have been surprised at how much the linear Sky channels have used the world feed. It's understandable in a way as many of the commentaries feature British voices and all are onsite, but it can be viewed as cheap and as if Sky are not fully trying. I think there's been three commentaries from Jonathan Overend and one today from Pete Odgers - and all but one of those commentaries have been on British matches without world feed commentary available.
Oh yeah checking the world feed it is the same Murray match and the same commentary I’d say the pictures are slightly less crisp on sky.
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Pete has stayed on as continuity on Sky Sports Action introducing Svitolina vs Friedsam.
Yesterday Gigi was doing continuity on both channels.

Sky Sports Main Event didn't go to their scheduled Carabao Cup simulcast with Sky Sports Football.
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Very minor but noticed coverage on Sky Showcase they have introduced a ‘Sky Showcase Live’ DOG permanently on screen. Previously with some sports coverage (WSL/F1) on the channel they hadn’t used a live DOG. Also, bit strange that Sky Sports Tennis is higher up in the EPG but SSAction seems to be hosting a hell of a lot of the tennis too but lower down.
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(29-08-2023, 08:12 PM)J102B Wrote:  Very minor but noticed coverage on Sky Showcase they have introduced a ‘Sky Showcase Live’ DOG permanently on screen. Previously with some sports coverage (WSL/F1) on the channel they hadn’t used a live DOG. Also, bit strange that Sky Sports Tennis is higher up in the EPG but SSAction seems to be hosting a hell of a lot of the tennis too but lower down.

Action becomes wall-to-wall NFL from next Tuesday 5th, with Mix picking up the second channel baton for a couple of days.
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A bit odd that Sky presented their coverage of Salford v. Leeds in the EFL Cup from the studio rather than pitchside this evening, especially considering Mark Chapman and likely others live closer to Salford than Osterley. I'm guessing they were expecting some issues with the crowd if they were onsite (I think I'm getting Salford and FC United of Manchester mixed up when I think BT had issues a few years back)?

To have an owner of one of the clubs on commentary (Gary Neville at Salford), even if they are one of Sky's most prominent pundits, is not something that rings right with me. I only watched the penalties, so I'm not sure if the quality of the commentary was poor though. With the shoot-out, it looks like there was a graphics issues, with a more basic scoreboard in the bottom left only showing the shoot-out score, rather than one with green/red indicators in the top left.



Over on the tennis, Sky Sports have been having a few wrong decisions on scheduling and over-prominence of studio discussion today. Just now, with Andy Murray finishing around 15 minutes ago, there is still studio discussion and analysis with another British player in Dan Evans not having linear coverage (Jack Draper being shown on SS Action). It also looks like Martina Navratilova finishes early each day compared to the other London-based pundits.
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(29-08-2023, 10:58 PM)RhysJR Wrote:  Over on the tennis, Sky Sports have been having a few wrong decisions on scheduling and over-prominence of studio discussion today. Just now, with Andy Murray finishing around 15 minutes ago, there is still studio discussion and analysis with another British player in Dan Evans not having linear coverage (Jack Draper being shown on SS Action). It also looks like Martina Navratilova finishes early each day compared to the other London-based pundits.
And now showing two other matches over a British player, after 30 minutes with little action on the Tennis channel. I'm struggling to follow some of the decision making here.
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Three unusual decisions today

First they missed the first three games at the start of Cam Norrie's match on SS Action while waiting for Jabeur vs Osorio to finish, while on Tennis once Katie Boulter's match was over they barely showed any live action before dipping to Zverev vs Vukic for a while and then showing the last game of a completely onesided match between Medvedev and Balazs - they spent longer talking about this match aftewards than they did showing it. Eventually they went to Alexandrova vs Fernandez which was the match before Andy Murray's and on a show court with a well known player, so would have been logical to join that one earlier. What they should have done is picked up Norrie's match from the start on Tennis, and moved it over to Action at some point between Jabeur vs Osorio finishing and Murray vs Moutet beginning.

Second, they missed the first two games of Jack Draper's match on Action because they randomly dipped into Diaz Acosta vs Isner for two games. No logical explanation for this, Isner is only well known for the longest match at Wimbledon, and while this may be his last tournament he is not particularly entertaining to watch.

Dan Evans' match started while both Jack Draper and Andy Murray were playing but it was a good 45 minutes after Murray's win before they showed anything live on Tennis. For a good chunk of that time they were showing Jack Draper's match and talking over it in the studio, and dipped into Dan Evans for a minute or so, but a lot of the time was spent discussing the same things they had been talking about earlier. They eventually joined Wawrinka vs Nishioka three or four games in. Meanwhile on Action they have followed Draper's match with Daniel vs Monfils, so Evans vs Galan is only on the streaming with no commentary.

I am assuming that, although they interviewed her about it yesterday and they have been mentioning it a few times, that there won't be full coverage of Jodie Burrage's match. I'd be surprised if that starts before the night session, which if yesterday is anything to go by, they'll just take the world feed for the rest of the night and all go home.

Don't get me wrong, the punditry has been great, especially the addition of Jordanne Whiley today, but there has been a bit too much of it at the expense of live tennis action. Eurosport and Prime Video kept it to a slot at the start of the day, and a slot before the night session. For the rest of the day, the time between matches is sufficient.
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(29-08-2023, 11:41 PM)dvboy Wrote:  Three unusual decisions today

First they missed the first three games at the start of Cam Norrie's match on SS Action while waiting for Jabeur vs Osorio to finish, while on Tennis once Katie Boulter's match was over they barely showed any live action before dipping to Zverev vs Vukic for a while and then showing the last game of a completely onesided match between Medvedev and Balazs - they spent longer talking about this match aftewards than they did showing it. Eventually they went to Alexandrova vs Fernandez which was the match before Andy Murray's and on a show court with a well known player, so would have been logical to join that one earlier. What they should have done is picked up Norrie's match from the start on Tennis, and moved it over to Action at some point between Jabeur vs Osorio finishing and Murray vs Moutet beginning.

Second, they missed the first two games of Jack Draper's match on Action because they randomly dipped into Diaz Acosta vs Isner for two games. No logical explanation for this, Isner is only well known for the longest match at Wimbledon, and while this may be his last tournament he is not particularly entertaining to watch.

Dan Evans' match started while both Jack Draper and Andy Murray were playing but it was a good 45 minutes after Murray's win before they showed anything live on Tennis. For a good chunk of that time they were showing Jack Draper's match and talking over it in the studio, and dipped into Dan Evans for a minute or so, but a lot of the time was spent discussing the same things they had been talking about earlier. They eventually joined Wawrinka vs Nishioka three or four games in. Meanwhile on Action they have followed Draper's match with Daniel vs Monfils, so Evans vs Galan is only on the streaming with no commentary.

I am assuming that, although they interviewed her about it yesterday and they have been mentioning it a few times, that there won't be full coverage of Jodie Burrage's match. I'd be surprised if that starts before the night session, which if yesterday is anything to go by, they'll just take the world feed for the rest of the night and all go home.

Don't get me wrong, the punditry has been great, especially the addition of Jordanne Whiley today, but there has been a bit too much of it at the expense of live tennis action. Eurosport and Prime Video kept it to a slot at the start of the day, and a slot before the night session. For the rest of the day, the time between matches is sufficient.
Indeed the whole Burrage match was behind the red button without any commentary. 

You do feel you are getting a bit of a substandard coverage at times on day two from Sky unfortunately. I think everyone is paying more than they would have been for last year's tournament (though there is far more sporting content available with a Sky subscription v. Prime). But then you are getting more ads in 30 minutes than Prime had in all of their coverage, and Sky are seemingly using one (or two) of their own lead commentators, which means we've had British matches without commentary (with the caveat of there being six British matches in one day) and no Sky-specific commentary from either of the main two courts so far. 
Prime would also have Marcus Buckland hosting after midnight, and although both used world feed commentaries on the night session, it can come across with Sky putting in less effort than Prime despite Prime hardly blowing the budget on their own coverage last year. I think Eurosport, despite the often lackadaisical elements of their coverage, use more of their own personnel on commentary and I can't remember too many British matches without commentary during recent French or Australian Opens.

I'd agree that from what I've seen the studio and wider punditry elements have been great, but as is often the case in sports broadcasting, the balance between studio and actual action has not yet been found during the day. I'm not sure exactly what they were intending after the Murray match to have so much studio chat rather than action, possibly encouraging Sky Showcase viewers to pay for the access to the full live coverage on a sports package perhaps by giving them a taster of the action.
 (PS Although not perfect either, I think the balance was as good as I can remember on the athletics last week).

I haven't needed to check or use it yet, but how is good is the catch-up offering from Sky? Especially with many matches finishing after midnight UK time, you'd hope it would be plentiful with timely uploads.
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Worth remembering Amazon did a pretty poor job their first year but then improved significantly - and this is showing how a return to linear broadcasting is such a step back after years of viewers being more in control of what they watch. Yes, Amazon had their main feed but generally you'd go straight to the match of your choice. The switch to Sky means the loss of those matches on demand too.
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